@b05df304 @ddc3da8f and we are back to Erlang/OTP and distributed Mnesia, never understood how someone can name data storage system like this :-) 

 @b05df304 @ddc3da8f and if they do, they than do not separate data model and this will kill them during horizontal scaling because they are not stateless :-) you have idea how many state full micro services I have seen in my live in terms of for example login sessions. Technically impossible to horizontally scale. 

 @ddc3da8f @b05df304 @8aabb2c9 yep Jaroslav Heyrovský received Nobel Price for polarography and electrochemistry. 

 @ddc3da8f @b05df304 I was referring to using Kotlin in Backend side 

 @b05df304 @ddc3da8f if you say Java, we should also say Kotlin. However if I would be tasked with 5+ nines SLA than I would take into consideration Erlang/Elixir perhaps Scala with their Actors models. 

 @ddc3da8f @f8dfc7e8 well if someone is using jquery as building block that he can’t defer while he needs to use it from beginning. Not mentioning the mess with shadow DOM. 

 @f8dfc7e8 @ddc3da8f yep, JQ is one of the biggest waste of bandwidth before DOM is even rendered. 

 @ddc3da8f @f8dfc7e8 tbh, NOJS = blank screen happens when someone disabled it, I don’t see the difference with PHP on client side, if someone disable JS for sure, he will disable PHP also. 

 @ddc3da8f @f8dfc7e8 @ec7374a8 @aecfae5b the only big limitation of PWA has been Apple not supporting web push notifications, well this has recently changed. I love PWA and their independence on app stores. However I would doubt PHP will ever do it to browser side, you may compile it into wasm and with some react trickery to get it working. But it will ultimately fails the same way as pyscript loading 5MB before app even starts. 

 @ddc3da8f @f8dfc7e8 why to remake flash, we have PixiJS 

 @ddc3da8f @ec7374a8 @aecfae5b or just go with some another language ;-)