It does not matter how many nodes you add bc it's an isolated network and can't communicate with other haveno networks, just like local area networks (LAN), all haveno instances are isolated and there's is just one working haveno instance (haven-reto) and its controlled by a single unknown entity. Is this decentralized? Of course not. They can change fees and have full control over their network. Just need to push a new update, and since almost nobody installed from source, all nodes will have to use the new fees or they simply can't communicate. They nodes dont have a choice bc they dont have the same permissions like the network operator (haveno-reto) 

 Agree 100%. Bitcoin is only being used bc ppl have to use it to get into the crypto market and just like the USD its traceable and hijacked by a very tiny group, thus very centralized in reality. Its not digital gold because its traceable, gold isn't. It has become a digital shitcoin over the years. 

 Bisq is a privacy nightmare, since all trades are public, even amount.
Haveno is very centralized and isolated. It does not even have a federation protocol. 

 Its not pure p2p trading since it has a middleman. Simple as that. Arbitrator is also a middleman and profits on each transaction. Haveno is just like LocalMonero but more censorship-resistant and it takes a lot of time to learn. It also very centralized since you can't take a trade from any other haveno instance, bc every instance is isolated. You could argue its decentralized in its very centralized network, that is controlled by a very small group.  

 I used to think the Nostr community was full of geeks with at least a basic grasp of networking. But now I have to break it down: Haveno is brainwashing everyone and spreading some seriously dangerous misinformation about their so-called 'decentralized' network. Spoiler alert: it’s just a simple LAN network with all the same old networking rules.

When I use the term 'LAN network' I actually mean 'haveno network'
When I use the term 'laptops' I actually mean 'nodes'
When I use the term 'trusted VPN' I actually mean 'trusted software'
When I use the term 'communicate' I actually mean 'trade'
When I use the term 'Wi-Fi password' I actually mean 'fees'

# 6 Simple Networking Rules: 

1. At home, I have a large 'LAN network' that connects many 'Laptops' via Wi-Fi. Every month, I add more 'Laptops'.

2. Unfortunately, the 'Laptops' in my 'LAN network' can’t 'communicate' with other 'LAN networks' because it’s isolated from the internet by a firewall similar to the one in China.

3. If yo want to access my 'LAN network' from the outside world, you’ll just have to install my 'VPN'. As the VPN provider, I’ll be logging all your communications. So, you might want to be super careful about who you decide to 'communicate' with!

3. My 'LAN network' isn’t decentralized, but the 'Laptops' connected to it can 'communicate' with each other in a way that resembles peer-to-peer (p2p). However, all the traffic still goes through the 'LAN network', so it’s not truly p2p like on the normal internet.

4. You only need 2 'Laptops' to 'communicate' within my 'LAN network'.

5. I am the network administrator, which means I have full control over my 'LAN network'.

6. Occasionally, I need to change the 'Wi-Fi password' to a new number, and all the 'Laptops' in my 'LAN network' must use the updated 'Wi-Fi password' to continue being able to 'communicate' with each other.