Oddbean new post about login | logout I think @Cameri was the first person to suggest this but i could be misremembering. I still think spammers would do the PoW as a way to exploit this wot expansion
For sure they will do it But maybe it will slow them down just enough that muting and banning could make a difference? And relay operators could more easily share ban lists? Although maybe not, if a user mines an npub on a phone for 10 mins, a 4090 can probably do that same work in a few seconds :/
yes this was my exact line of thinking which made me abandon pow for most things
PoW makes most sense per-message to stop mass spamming, it makes less sense on pubkeys. But even per message is not a silver bullet because you can spin up many machines these days, i dunno
PoW can only prevent financially-motivated spam, where the click-through rate isn't amazing. It merely slows and limits trolls and ideologically-motivated spam.
Slowing down spam is a reasonable goal. Completely eliminating it is likely not realistic.
I still think ip rate limiting and banning is way less intrusive and works well. I think i can eliminate 99% of it with enough elbow grease, but will likely require active monitoring for new attacks. I can see why twitter had a bot team -_-
IP rate limiting curves spam on a single relay but spammers are sending events to many relays so clients still get spam, and unfortunately relays donโt gossip about this stuff for better or worse.
We donโt need to gossip it necessarily, we just need to be working in the same spam ip blocking code. going to write something up for noteguard and hope other public relays run it and improve it
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