Kieran is talking some #zapstream on Citadel Dispatch.

https://zap.stream/naddr1qqjrxd3jxqenzdmx95ckgvp4956xgcny95ungwf595ckvvnyxfjnjwpnxc6kzqgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctczyr85tf46zd366lkjzws83ecs6fq3ttnjrjd500g7haz936h0knp22qcyqqq8vecq50xrv 

 Nice have to catch the recording later