Oddbean

We need to make the new user and discovery in nostr. While we all win when open protocols win, but we need the users if we want the diverse open app ecosystem we want then we need nostr to build its user base. https://image.nostr.build/0ba8048a214abdbb421f25ed1c8492c93f83143bccf724fd24d2925df04da31b.jpg

The fact that they can pull those numbers at all says all you need to know about their "decentralization". Unfortunately, most people don't actually want to fix the root cause, they just want a slightly nicer dictator. @rabble I'm curious, what do you think is bringing in all those users? Is it really just "discovery"?

I agree with you, I'm having a hard time on Plebstr for Android, it's basically DEAD, everytime I access the App all I get is @Cyborg translating in different languages, cryptic topics from verified users, I mean is everyone on this network a coder or programmer or Bitcoin Bull, nobody discusses actual topics of social interest or news articles, no images, etc, I contacted support a few months back, asking them when would users get an InApp wallet where we can earn Sats, like TweetoshiApp, they said soon, it's been 8 months now. I can't get any Sats or Zaps, even when posting original content, it's frustrating, and I follow the people who are developing the platform????

Just yesterday I saw discontent with the lack of ”serious” discussion on Bsky meaning the pro networks have not migrated from X in that particular case. Most of the complaints seem to be about lack of functionality on bsky. For example, no videos, and no lists (yet they are coming). People are not content with Mastodon. X is becoming unbearable with spam and trolling. A lot of people are just quitting. Nostr seems to be already in shape to answer these questions. Moderation tools are also at a level where I think we can start to take people in. If we can target some specific niches, whole communities, that might be the most effective at this point.

Content discovery is crucial; we need to find a way to categorize content. If we don't want to rely on algorithms, we should at least provide users with the ability to add category tags to their notes, such as Art, Tech, Dev, Politics with proper web of trust. Users should be able to subscribe to specific topics.

Lots to learn here. Certainly the onboarding, content management and UX is good. However, the thing is that nostr cant handle that volume of users, even if we got all of that all right. While app developers in nostr have been kindly supported, the nostr infrastructure has not been. Around 1000 relays have gone offline. Something bluesky leadership did well, that nostr should learn from. We need to support both great apps, growth, and infrastructure. You need 3/3.

I don’t think we’ll win with more features like polls. We need better UX around using the apps, joining, explaining nostr to people who are neither bitcoiners (or other crypro folks who get wallets / keys) nor developers. We can do this.

Shows that there's a lot of potential for nostr which is great Agreed on focusing on UX now not later, and it's improving at tremendous pace which is awesome I feel a lot of ppl make these decisions without ever seeing a nostr app I think this line says a lot "They just want to feel safe" note1almcr7wtt4crdd8zfzfr6h8nuft4l30ar8aucqpekj637c2eprcqpkrgtu There's an audience of ppl who just want Twitter-without-Elon (sorry Elon) and want to feel safe Starting with the name Bluesky Relaxing, un-threatening, appealing, beautiful, open The landing page https://bsky.app/ Clean, minimalist, professional, corporate-y, reassuring Step 2, a walled-garden Safe, keep those birds-of-prey out https://image.nostr.build/730422d73a3035ce95c4152c115e9c95f6adaf621f63ce9756f27bac8e2627b4.jpg Starting with the name nostr What does that mean? notes and other stuff transmitted by relays What does that mean? Where is the landing page? Confusion => anxiety I doubt nostr can follow the same growth path as Bluesky It may likely be slower But also inexorable The tide coming in vs a surge Riffing on Eliza's note The first vector may be ppl living on or looking for the edges Artists Free spirits Engineers Homesteaders Rootless travellers Freedom tech pioneers Dissidents esp in countries where KYC risks are huge Ppl like me, old and jaded Followed by the edgy and their groupies Followed by more mainstream interests Bluesky will attract those journalists who like a corporate-y official feel and their followers All is highly speculative I like what you said in your talk at nostrasia about getting feedback from real user testing... that would be great To be a bit more action than words I'll test out on a few "volunteers" I don't know where is a good place to start? Which clients? Or Which profile generators? Or Which "about nostr" landing pages? Maybe this is the first UX question for nostr ... where to start? 😃

Nostr has to solve problems people are experiencing elsewhere in order to thrive / grow. Its about fulfilling needs that are not being met elsewhere. For those who are not experiencing what you want to see here: 1. Where did you come from? And why did you leave the previous tool? 2. What are you looking for here? 3. If you could change a single thing about today’s experience in nostr what would it be and why?

Fair enough but I think many don’t even know what Nostr and Zaps are. And most of my art work has nothing the do with Nostr (see my feed :)) But when I tell people in real life about Nostr they already look at me what is he talking about. I think for creatives the big thing is for sure zaps. We all want to earn something with what we love to do. This new tech changes the way creatives can earn. But I understand you and luckily we are not all the same, the world would be so boring. :) Have a nice day 🤙

47 people is just way too small of a number to see anything. You should follow 500+ Don’t forget people used to use Twitter to just talk about their day. Creators didn’t get in until after the early celebrities joined. You can’t possibly expect all of the things you mentioned from 47 follows… Also, have you considered creating the content you described? Why not curate your own news, quotes, articles, whatever and become the creator you seek to follow? I post designs occasionally and have started talking about startups but unfortunately our communities are not well suited for community posts. I do agree there’s a lot of b content but not much we can do about it other than features that have not been implemented yet.

Hi @Karnage thanks for your reply, I have been producing and publishing articles on this platform, I have also published my own creative designs, included my project's website et all, but what seems to happen is that I'm driving audiences to my webpage and social media but on Plebster I don't actually get any Zaps. In my opinion, LIKES 🤙should count as Zaps⚡️or at least amount to a specific in-wallet pool draw (i.e.TweetoshiApp) in which you get Sats back. The whole point is for these platforms to pay us to develop more quality content and keep posting it on their platforms, so if someone likes 🤙or views 📊 my content even if I don't get Sats straight away, at least those metrics should count for a in-app pool draw.