Oddbean

Comments posted by Vidar in the group chat, quote: I agree it makes Zero sense to you or me. Though I can guess some potential motivating factors: Assange public supporters aren't going down in numbers. I would guestimate there are more supporters now than 10 years ago, and there would have been more demonstrations. Growing public outrage. The Deep State trying to make it look good for Biden before election. *See links The USA prosecutors could see that their case was weakening as time continued, and they offered Assange a simple guilty plea Today, rather than lose the case completely after another 5 years. his sources: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/24/politics/julian-assange-plea-deal-biden-administration/index.html https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68784298

These are solid arguements as well. I don't have all the answers man. However keep in mind the effects of some of these wikileaks, such as Arab Spring kicking out Pro-US puppets, or Hillary Clinton losing the election, or Citibank picking obama's cabinet being exposed

Hmm, you do have good insights. Some of these statements I agree with, others are pushing it. The first paragraph on trump I accept your arguments. I'm just not pushing that as "the sole truth", as the arguments against it are logical as well. Trump certainly picked deep state people in his cabinet/staff. As far as the deliberate decline of the US empire, I disagree with. In fact, I think most war/coups in the Middle East, South America, and even other places has been over the forced sale of oil in US dollars. And actually Wikileaks has been some of the sources we've backed these claims up with. (such as Libya) But even without Wikileaks, Iraq's timing and Venezuela coups are great examples of "sell oil in USD or die" I agree with you that they want one world government, but I think the path towards that is dominance of the petrodollar empire & IMF/World Bank.

If you presuppose that the world is being run by a unified-in-purpose dark entity, things will never quite make sense. It is better to presuppose that there are many different people, each with a different idea of how the world should be, and who work together where they can, but fight for power otherwise. So what George Soros wants differs from what Hillary Clinton wants which differs from what Klaus Schwab wants which differs from what Jacinda Ardern wants, etc. What happens is that certain bad ideas become popular, certain good ideas become forgotten, and there is a lot of what the courts came to call "parallel action" that isn't actually overt collusion. For example, the neocons become focused on money laundering and over time neglect to be concerned with actual wartime strategy, and so all the wars are lost. But nobody got together in some dark shady room to decide to lose the wars. Our human minds are very limited, and it is easier to model reality as a small group of intentional humans, rather than the insanely large group of intentional humans that actually exists. That leads us to these shortcuts, to believe a deep state or global jewry is somehow organized and intentional and has a "plan". Freeing Assange was just a political pressure move. Assange killed or jailed vs. Assange free makes no difference to anybody in power. They only wanted to kill him because they were mad at him, and to send a strong message to others not to behave like he did. I think that strong message has been sent well enough, so keeping him longer didn't really matter, except to foster more distrust and antagonism against government power. So freeing him worked in their favor as the masses hopefully won't continue to harbor as much hate for the power of government.