Oddbean new post about login | logout None of the words are seed cipher
there are too many collisions with just 46 letters, you need to reveal corresponding painting to narrow down the scope
The painting is not supposed to have any meaning as far as we understood the hints so far 🧐
Correct, this one is just testing the strength of a 12 word seed with the letters mixed up!
In fact, the whole method should be put on fire, not just the most secure part. You can send me these 12 seed words in the correct order in a private message, and I will encrypt them using a public substitution table and send the ciphertext back to you. If you already know the plaintext and the ciphertext, and the table, try to reverse the encryption rules.
I don’t fully understand this
In simple terms, the ciphertext and substitution table are publicly displayed, and without knowing the rules, it is impossible to reverse deduce the plaintext. Even if the plaintext, ciphertext, and substitution table are publicly displayed, it is impossible to reverse deduce the rules. I will give an example to illustrate this later.
Let's take an example you have 12 seed words in the following order: anger animal check effort eight episode just oppose pig possible question sea By the way, this happens to be one set of possible solutions to your challenge. I re-encrypted them with my password card as below https://image.nostr.build/3a4d3f8a72c7cfe3ff77eaa7d256e1b4743024637b5ef0dad4ac0ba137d6d0ad.jpg to get the following strings: h+ike2Tk2hK9!%%+%@7#S9fVhMV^pVMV!h9Tb=2S9&Xe+hs8~npf5eMss I can write this string of characters on a piece of paper and put it anywhere in the public domain, along with my password card. If no one else knows the plaintext and substitution rules, then your seed words are safe. And even you yourself know the plaintext of the 12 words, and you know the ciphertext, and you have this substitution table from my password card, but you still can't backtrack my substitution RULES. Once you can do that, guess my substitution rules, you can restore another ciphertexts that I have written on paper and made public: 5hK9!spT&=h+Vs%9K9bXh+hY7fM2&8%+X@e9M2fVhMXspVT^h%Ss@2h+XP You'll find this is another group of MY seed words: XXXXXX XXXXXXX XXXXXXX XXXXXX XXX XXXXX XXXXX XXX XXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXXXX By the way, this group of seed words is another set of possible solutions to your challenge. can you make it? As you can see, the key to security becomes the RULES, and it's always easier to memorize the rules than it is to memorize individual ciphers one by one, so I use this card to manage all of my high-strength passwords over 8 years, and I'm sure it can be used to keep the seed words safe as well.
no, this challenge is to restore the private key from random characters, which is the security foundation of Bitcoin and cannot be challenged In fact, the painting gives clues to restore the 12 seed words in the correct order, as the author said, this is a simple substitution cypher, it is impossible to restore it by just have the seed plate, and you can't even start guessing with just the painting, only by putting the seed plate and the painting together can you solve the private key. And as I told the author, the password management tool I have actually used for the past 8 years can also be used for seed word encryption, which allows to publish seed plate and painting at the same time and still be unbreakable
@fiatbrecher has been working on brute forcing this and has made it pretty far actually which is crazy
Brute force is not feasible for this problem. With the current global computing power, brute force can significantly reduce the search range, but it is still not small enough for luck to play a role in a meaningful time.
Tell that to @fiatbrecher
