The way mostr nostr clients are designed, a quote has more visibility and engagement from others than a reply. There is a huge OP bias right now. nostr:nevent1qqsypnhat5ud0x4k773zrkr3vgclf6qcppz75t4nyesutathxganx7qppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qgs03ekxgdp0rczjfqrrpcn7zqtdec6lcwnpfesyxnl0f239qvege2grqsqqqqqpud35cd
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We are all in agreement then. Quoting is meant more to draw more attention to yourself, instead of having a conversation with the OP. I don’t see why people are getting offended that I’m pointing out this behavior. If you want attention, quote. If you want to have a conversation, reply.
I quote from time to time because OPs choose not to engage with plebs so it feels like talking to a wall of elitism which I find abhorrent. Not saying you do it (at all) but thought you might like another opinion.
Yeah, “I’m taking this idea and starting a convo with my boys about it” is a valid use case
Yea, there are lots of reasons to use a quote vs. reply.
Nostr etiquette is new to all of us. Some of us aren’t house trained 👀
There is no etiquette here. We’re making it up as we go. Do as you please. Don’t let others bully you with their twisting of your actions.
I agree we’re all figuring it out. But I’m comfortable with the way my feed flows. Lulz alongside insightful content and quoted posts is how I find new frens
Different clients also handle feeds differently so you can’t be sure how things will look on someone else’s feed. For the longest time, quoted notes on Amethyst showed up as replies on Damus. It was weird.
Many times I don’t get notified if someone quotes a post, and I only know they quoted it because I happen to see it while scrolling in my feed. If someone instead replies then I always see it. Quote vs. Reply is not about one being right and one being wrong, it’s about the intent of the social interaction. If you want attention for yourself, then a quote is better. If you want a conversation with the OP, then a reply is better.
On amythest at least (cant speak for damus since i dont use it), quotes have another function to pull specific replies out of the thread and highlight them directly on the main feed. Most my followers likely wouldn't ever have seen what you wrote, buried in the thread. Now they see it directly on their feed. nostr:nevent1qqsdpyr4lkphe32y3xw6vlcs0qrcfurwxvhphhtjg3z4q7mgquy35ygpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmqzyruwd3jrgtc7q5jgqccwylsszmwwxh7r5c2wvpp5lm625fgrx2x2jqcyqqqqqqgnv5u6f
Yes and the algo on Xitter does this automatically for us. Whereas we have to be the algo we want to see on the nostr.
Agree - If you want to live in a human directed world then you, as a human, must be conscious of these choices and take on the responsibility of making those choices. If you're cool with algos shaping human culture then go ahead and continue to let them drive. Freedom isn't free. And let's be honest, having to make a concious decision between a quote vs reply is not exactly a high price to pay.
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The question is who do YOU want to see what you’re saying, the person you’re replying to or your followers? If it’s the person you’re replying to then use a reply. If it’s your followers then use a quote post. If it’s both, then reply and repost/boost your reply.
Amythest doesn't notify of quote replies so I'm doing it manually thru the regular reply. 👀👇🏾 nostr:nevent1qqsthmzgk0u2mqmlyrh7m72pqd4qaud5xv8r6msyv7ey0w3vpatc3fqpz4mhxue69uhkyetkduhxummnw3erztnrdaksygywyllmtjdm3nwszvddumh6f82k6sqm2sjdnl0e5clqwn2j0vr3tspsgqqqqqqsdutn56
I appreciate this but most of the folks on here have moved over from Twitter. I've never used Twitter so understanding some of the etiquette would be helpful. This will be true as Nostr grows and there is adoption from TikTokers and Instagram users where most people actually are online. Reposting on IG, for example, is the nicest thing you could do for a content creator. It gives them YOUR platform. Interesting that here it is considered giving yourself attention.
Reposting vs. Quote posting. Reposting simply boosts someone else’s note to your followers. Quote posting creates a new original post by you to your follows that displays the quoted post below it for context.
Oh and if it gets zapped, the quote poster gets it rather than the original poster. Maybe it's not about attention but about the sats.
Haha that’s a good point too 🤣
Agreed. It’s still a form of sharing the original.
Sometimes you want to loop more people into a conversation hence the quote keeping your original message. Perspective.
I never said seeking attention is always a negative thing
The 'We ' in the statement 'We are all in agreement then..' Is that the royal 'we' or an assumption? Asking for a friend of a friend who is an abhorrent 'quote poster 'type. 😉
If you scroll up to see the two people that was in reply to, that is “we.”
There's nothing stopping you from replying to the quote though. Quotes are a reply that engages the OP with the followers of the one that quotes. nostr:nevent1qqs9vgg4zejzvww6h4ejlesr2z8rwaqs8cmz8e7wym3vhlaj67t4lespzdmhxue69uhk7enxvd5xz6tw9ec82c30qgs03ekxgdp0rczjfqrrpcn7zqtdec6lcwnpfesyxnl0f239qvege2grqsqqqqqpvlfl8v
I agree with you here slim. A reply engages you directly with the OP. A quote will engage OP with the quotes audience. Yes it also garners additional attention but engagement and attention tend to go hand in hand. They're not mutually exclusive and the intent is what matters. Is the quoter simply trying to get cheap attention off the backs of someone else's note or are they facilitating engagement with a new audience? Both can utilize the same action but with different intents.
I see no value in quotes when people have started to abuse them. Yes, at some point, boosting was better than sats, but now it's mostly either bots (80%) or echo chambers of like-minded individuals (20%) who are quoting, resulting in just noise that I don't need in my feed.
The issue is that replies are in practice a semi-private conversation between you and the OP. If I wanted a private 1-on-1 chat, I would prefer a DM. The ability to bring other people into a conversation is a crucial part of social media and why it's so powerful.
Yeah, what’s the point of talking... I just don't want to see someone’s dumb post "Bitcoin is the future" 50 times. The worst are the Chinese. There are entire chains of bots here, whose feeds consist of an endless stream of quoting each other, and one bot even writes comments to itself and then quotes itself. Most things in Nostr don't work and don't make sense. The follower count is inaccurate, deleting notes doesn't actually delete them, zaps are empty, and the author adds reactions to their own posts. Quotes are no different in this regard—they aren't special enough to show every boost in the feed as if it were the first time.
The reply then self boost is king.
Except that the boosted reply might appear weird without the OP's context. It does not always work well.