Oddbean new post about login | logout “Far right” has been diluted to the point where it’s no longer a useful term in any practical sense. If I see it in a headline it means nothing now.
it never meant anything and most of the provocateurs were FBI agents or handled by FBI
my experience before learning about the FBI's instigations was in australia, where most of the rabid nazi types i ever met were people who spent time in prison and had extensive contact with the CIB and other police operations always, always, open fascists are either first or second level government operatives
Yep, it’s not about right or left. It’s about those that want to control what others do, and those that don’t.
That's a pretty far right thing u said
- having kids - working out - beef - planting a garden - free speech - American flag - Gadsden flag - Appeal to Heaven flag These things are all "far right". What did I miss? nostr:nevent1qqszx38qtg9tzm4lpu6netpds4z4yf8rnwjwmszrtdlsv6ezr7k2kuqpremhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet59upzp64suatdx2uqhn2xfu7cgjuqgqcrqadp864uxkv6wckf43atj860qvzqqqqqqyx9fy03
“Far right” = not socialist
Far right individuals are socialists. The Nazi party at the beginning was a socialist party. The fascist party was a socialist party.
Yeah, the full name is actually Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP) or "National Socialistic German Workers' Party. Nazi is just the nickname for "national socialist", as opposed to the "international socialists", like the Kommunistische Partei Deutschlands, that went up against them in the national election and was controlled by Stalin.
Left and right, socialism, capitalism. These words are ALL not well defined. They can be used to explain moral concepts or political strategies. But then it still will be vague. Most times these words are just used for finger pointing/ finding an enemy. If you want a real discussion, just don’t use this words and explain your though with words that are not charged with emotions. And discussing the definition of these terms is just a waste of time.
Naming things increases information of the words spoken, even if the name is not ideal or the defined realm is not absolute. This increases our ability to think and have complex ideas. Source: I am German.
I see we have a political party now called "Die Partei"? very confusing
One of my classmates is a member of that lol
Nazis named themselves socialists and political right oriented, so that is a fact for sure. And I agree often we have to find terms we can use as a reference to describe complex ideas. Anyhow these terms are often used in a lot of different situations and often pushed into a new framing for „marketing“ without being specific. That’s why these terms alone are imo not „ideal“ for describing things. You always need to add information or references to explain what you really mean. E.G. terms like „socialism is is the opposite of right“ (what is often the current political situation) and „extreme right is socialism“ (what was the situation for political parties in the „Deutsche Reich“) are both wrong in general, but can be useful if you add the specific context.
Language is an inter-subjective tool for communication tool that perpetuates itself thatbks to people that use it. Redefining the words every time you use them is a waste of time, unless you're doing some academics work (which is not our case I suppose). It's like if you were to redefine every postulate, axiom and theorem of mathematics every time you need to apply derivatives...you can do that, but good luck. It's a tradeoff between practicality and transmission of a message: in this context the "right" and "left" words communicate a broader gist, that's the important thing imo.
Language is evolving. Not I am changing the definition, society does. If you want to avoid misunderstanding, it is important to add precise references (Like in physics when we say „according to xy“) or explain the context, when using vague terms like left or right. There is no precise overall definition for them.
Like the “red wave” in USA 😆
So drop the cults, and get behind principals. For example, taking our police powers back from these traitorous governments, making AIPAC obey the law and register as a foreign agent, end forced taxation, etc.
It says more about how far left today’s Left have gone. From that vantage point, anything Right is far away 😂
It's useful in that any media organisation using it can safely be ignored. What they mean by it of course is 'has opinions I disagree with'.
It's just a catchall smear word then media throws at anything they don't like.
only someone on the far right would say that
Nah, it's a catchall for discrediting anyone without actually going to the trouble of dismantling their arguments. In my country, while we were under communism the equivalent was the phrase "the people's enemy". Once you were labeled with that, you were effectively an outcast and would leave the country, if you got lucky. If you weren't you got a "fair" trial and were shipped to an island called Naked island where you'd be breaking rocks the whole day, every day. By the end of the 80s that term was thrown around in tandem with several others, but by that time it was so overused nobody gave a single shit about it. The "far-right" label is reaching the same point.
it was a joke
The left has gone full retard Never go full retard
We just need to split left states and right states up. I would never live in a left-leaning state. The majority of them are trash. People are less capable, more drama, not as friendly, they lack checks and balances in every aspect of life down to gender. Personally, I despise the government across-the-board, everywhere in the world, immensely, but the left is just full retard. A bird eye view, it is absolutely sickening what they are doing to this country. There isn’t much too complain about what the right . They’re grasping at straws.
100 years later and you are still trapped in the left-right narrative. Left and right are more similar than you want to admit. Like Pepsi and Coke.
Anyone against giving me free money is far right. nostr:note1ydzwqks2k9ht7re48jkzmp292gjw8xayahqyxkmlqe4jy8av4dcqej6yxz