Oddbean

@Radical Graffiti Folks, let me clarify something. 1. Several thousand Polish partizans and civilians in Volyn region were killed by the Ukrainians during the WWII (so-called Volyn massacre). 2. A visible part of Ukrainian fighters (at least during the first (2014-21) and second (2021-22) phase of the war were clear nationalists and and NeoNazi adherents. Including Mariupol Steelworks defenders, the Azov Battalion. Cynically speaking, now there is much fewer of them. Compared to this, naturalization of 2000 Nazis in Canada, or who-knows-how-many in the UK, Sweden and the US of A, is a Cold War relic that may scandalize Western people, much less us, whose family histories bear scars from the Nazis and Bolsheviks and Stalinists alike (let alone fresh experience of disaster capitalism). Nobody denies these facts, nobody denies their importance and nobody sane wishes to make it a current problem, when we have contemporary Rashists pushing for another world war. Unless they get defeated, there will be no one to discuss, clarify and get scandalized - at least not in Ukraine and perhaps not in Poland. Perhaps in some Western countries if they surrender fast enough. And guess what: there is nobody in sight, keen and able to stop the Putinists with own blood and life - but the Ukrainian state and its citizens. And yes, including Ukrainian nationalists and even Ukrainian neonazis. Nor there is anybody keen and able to provide material support for this fight - but (increasingly reluctant) Western governments and the bloody NATO. When the current war is over (or, more probably, frozen Korean style) we will be able to get back to historical problems and try to "solve" them - if they are solvable at all. I'd rather expect that current war may fluidly transform into a class war within Ukraine, when it is time to pay for the support, allowing disaster capitalism to grab what is grabbable. We should be ready for that anyway.