Oddbean new post about login | logout also @rabble has been saying some great stuff on this, he says it despite folks hating him for it, but he’s completely right about most things.
Eh. I can't stand what he's doing or how he's doing it. I've blocked him and am glad I don't have to listen to his posts, even if he is occasionally articulating something that I would agree with. 🤷♂️
I'm 100% for creating tools for community segregation. What does this mean? You have a set list of relays and you share this space with anyone that has an overlap in relay lists. To start, if you think of every relay as your community, and the relay operators as your sanitation dept you communicate with them to keep your community clean tell them to clear out known bad actors and mute the ones they don't take off. From there, everyone will find communities aligned with their values and stay away from the others. Maybe a community doesn't have to revolve around a relay, even better! The whole point being, @rabble can moderate the community in the way they want to cultivate, and you can belong to the relays/communities you care about and not need to worry about encountering each other or dealing with moderation practices you don't care about.
Well, that's something I hope happens sooner rather than later and that is easier to implement than most nostr stuff...
Same — the do-gooder, “keep us safe” ethos is poison.
Is that true, or is that your personal opinion?
you tell me -- do you want do-gooders monitoring people for “wrongspeech” online? There’s always an important reason to censor — for “public health” or “national security” or “to keep you safe.” It’s why people are here — to avoid centralized software that polices speech for “the greater good.”
You can’t say why everyone is here. Not everyone is here for the same reason as you Chris. You sound like a delusional narcissist
LOL, we’re definitely not the same. I don’t insult people with whom I’m having a discussion for no reason!
the beauty here is the same data can be used in infinitely different ways supporting different ideologies/beliefs or as neutral as you want (i.e., “show me everything”) It would only be a problem if they controlled nostr which obviously they don’t
I agree they will almost certainly fail. But I think part of the reason they will fail is the centralized “keep people safe” ethos won’t fly here, in part because people like me will make sure to emphasize how pernicious and wrongheaded it is.