Oddbean

Not as bad as mainstream, there are a lot of independent journalists much better than mainstream, but sure there is a lot more fake stuff than we think. Do you think everything on LibsofTikTok is real? There is absolutely a lot of libs saying and doing dumb-ass shit, but all of It? Jan 6th? No fake plants there to make protesters look bad, all real?

No, Dave, you see, the FBI conspired with Antifa to hire crisis actors to dress up like MAGA and storm the capital. It wasn’t an insurrection, but if it was, it was done by the Deep State. wAkE uP shEepLE!

When I said, “They’re all actors, all sides, more than we know!” I'm using it as a figure of speech for social media posts in general, not Jan 6 specifically. We all know that was real. But as we can see, edits from both sides can tell a different story and please different crowds.

i can see where you’re coming from, because it all seems so ridiculous. like, how can so much of this be real?! but these mobs are real. the hateful rhetoric is real. the jan 6 idiocy & violence was real. real right-wing, republican maga folks. not actors. it all seems so absurd and one is tempted to call them fake, but it’s an unfortunate & real consequence of social media... these days especially, most people have no mind of their own, so loud social media accounts fill these zombie-prone, empty-headed folks with their nonsense or hate. mobs are formed. idiots are led by idiots/evil/both. 𝕏 is bankrolling libs of tik tok, bc that’s the kind of thing lowlifes get emotional over. the psychotic & hateful vibe makes empty ppl feel full (of themselves) & addicted. it’s all real. when social media platforms need to make money from ads, all that matters is click number go up. there are more lowlife kind of degenerate people than there are good people, so at scale, especially without principled, honest & good leaders, it’s a swamp situation of more n more swamp…real swamp.

Jan 6 and blm riots are real, agree, fueled by hate and social media agree. But the cuts/edits used, to your point, exemplified the hate driving it even further (which is great for ad sales by the way). Was every single scene we saw from each correctly depected, or edited to form a narrative? Libs of tiktok, same, if its not fake, its edited to form a narrative. Pretty sure they have never shown a video putting a liberal or lgbt+ in a good light. The directed ‘fake/edited/narriated’ videos and hate on social media drives events like blm riots and Jan 6, which are further used to drive more hate. All so Elon and Mark can sell ads.

we have lots of agreement, but i still have lots of thoughts about all this. 🥹 just gonna put it all here, since the thread gives more context. 🙏 i think with jan 6, the narrative came before it. trump and people like him used social media to create & drive the narrative that he won and he shouldn’t leave office. social media enabled trump’s insurrection attempt. the mob organized online and trump’s narrative is the reason why/the justification for those treasonous psychopaths storming the capital and calling for mike pence to be hanged. the cuts/edits of different scenes are true pieces of the whole occurrence. maga was violent on their own, from the start. blm demonstrations happened all over the country and were mostly peaceful. maybe some of the claims/narratives that led up to the blm demonstrations were misconstrued (i dunno), but the main underlying grievance of systemic racism is real, true & justfied. and if violence erupted, it was from cops showing up & treating people unfairly. or from fringe/bad blm protestors taking criminal advantage (looting) of the situation. but blm protests were not organized or initiated with intended violence like the jan 6 insurrectionist mobs. the libs of tt person’s narrative results from a hate-filled & arrogant personality, and she earns a living from her clicks. elon pays her lots of money to instill a psychotic, racist & vicious mindset in their less intelligent & vulnerable followers. she’s not a journalist, so ofc she’s not looking for balance, and they’re not looking to solve problems with calm objectivity & education. she’s a fear & hate monger sided with the conservative tribe on the right. for example, trump is himself a rapist & client of epstein, so he raped girls too. but elon & the libs of tt girl want you to forget that and believe it’s only illegal immigrants from africa or south america that are raping girls & women. it’s deliberately psychotic & culturally harmful & insidious. the immigration problem in the states should be solved but not while increasing misogyny, animosity between people, or racial hatred . mentally unhealthy people, those who have broken personalities do not create healthy theories about society and do not treat others well. negative, fearful, hateful or psychotic personalities create negative, fearful, hateful or psychotic narratives. they don’t know what they’re doing could be evil & would never admit that they don’t know better. powerful people have the most influence on narratives. others follow w whatever tribe they choose & often do not voice dissent even when they know they should. we desperately need (at least) a third (political/cultural) tribe. if RFK jr can win, we can make a big steer away from the divisive narrative structures that have trapped us in a ridiculous reality & be more calm & rational. if we all could become a wholesome collective of independent, thoughtful people, willing to thoughtfully engage & learn from each other (while ofc also not being so full of fear of retribution), that would be such a nice dream made real. … my longest post ever. 😅🤓🥳🤗🫡

I appreciate your willingness, but I don’t have the time or energy to explain. Sorry. I’m enjoying my Saturday. This article from last year says enough: https://theweek.com/2024-presidential-election/1025265/a-running-list-of-rfk-jrs-controversies