Forgetful relays would possibly be good. 

You all know by now that whatever I'm bitching about this week I'll have forgotten about by next week. Might as well have the relays forget too. 🤷
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 😂 

 Link, ser? I’d like to read this. 

 https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2024/10/30/make-it-ephemeral/ 

 “When data is kept indefinitely by default, it changes our relationship with that software. People sometimes may hesitate to create anything in shared spaces for fear of cluttering them, while others might indiscriminately litter them.” 🎯 

 Gotta find more uses for the expires tag 

 Isnt that dangerous? Since once posted, anything can be saved, scraped and stored out of the system. It could make some people post something they assume will be forgoten only to be surprised when someone saves it.  

 No. 

 well no but actually yes 

 Nah 

 Snapchat proves it 

 Not really 

 💯% it does. But let's not argue when you are wrong.  

 And my company is out here building a system where programs run forever, can move transparently between host machines, and data is persisted forever in an event log. 

Looks like we'll have an epic ideological battle on our hands 😉 

 So tired of this line of thought … 💭 

 I misread your comment, my apologies. 

 I think different applications call for different solutions, and there's room for both schools of thought. Not everything should be ephemeral, and not everything should be saved forever. Nuance, gentlemen.  

 Agreed 

 Unison? 

 Very similar to unison. But our whole stack is open source and self-hostable. 
Unison has all their weird proprietary stuff 

 Data is often more a waste product than an asset 

 I was so curious as to why I never came across an amnesiac Mastodon instant. It felt like it made so much sense. So useful if you know that a post expires every year or so. You wouldn't have to worry about trying to store so much data either if you were hosting. 

 Doesn't seem like it should be hard to just work the logic from logrotate into other tools if that's what you're trying to do. 

 Running a nostr node for ling time is hard. Many will give it up and remove the setup after a while.  

 Sounds like, burning down a library, but slowly. 

 Absolutely 💯

Relays should purge data every month

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 Nostr brings high quality unfakeable data to the table.

I think trying to make data ephemeral goes against how the internet works and is a futile way of trying to replicate decay in meatspace.

Here's what really happens: people lose access to historical data and well-funded surveillance and NSA types who vacuum up the data now have a monopoly on it. 

 I use Backblaze for that. I thought all my data would be saved but alas no, they forgot a bunch of it!