Man... How did @ODELL addressed that elephant? Just by stating that it existed? I listened to that podcast for that specific reason. and it was 45 minutes of the same old talks repeated for the N-th time. You talked 100x more indepth about that elephant in this short note than Saylor and Odell both did combined... 

 What is the timestamp for when it was discussed, for whatever little that might have been? 

 ~28:15