Oddbean

Nothing because he was a statist. But a lot of lies have been told about World War II in general. - The 10/14 million Germans who died after the war are omitted. - They omit the Allied concentration camps, including in the U.S. where over 120,000 Japanese were interned. - The number of dead Jews is inflated. - It omits all the massacres carried out by the Allies such as the bombing of Dresden. - It omits all the times that Germany tried to sign the peace and the British refused. - It omits the banking interests and pressures by certain banking lobbies to start the war, since Hitler created his own pattern, the labor pattern, outside the central bank system. You only have to see that the U.S. dropped nuclear bombs on civilians in a totally surrendered state like Japan and they boast about it. It is not a matter of being in favor of what Hitler did or what the allies did, it is a matter of telling history as it happened and realizing that there are no good guys and bad guys, it is all about interests.

Not that they surrendered, but that they had no more options, sooner or later they were going to capitulate, they were economically asphyxiated. Dropping nuclear bombs on them was totally disproportionate. The first bomb I can't tell you but the second bomb was 100% for experimental purposes since the first one on Hiroshima was enriched uranium and the one on Nagasaki was plutonium. In the second bomb, the plutonium one, they simply wanted to prove that it worked and it was much cheaper than the uranium one.

@Cyph3rp9nk Interesting. I can't say I'm terribly informed on everything you've brought up but it is funny that people have a lot of cognitive dissonance when examining more distant history. People will condemn #RyanWesleyRouth and #ThomasMatthewCrooks but support #Bonhoeffer. People will condemn the #IDF's offensive in #Gaza but support the bombing of #Hiroshima.

Japan was in no way "totally surrendered"..the country was worn down, but the Banzai spirit very much lived on and the ersatz-samurai militarists were fully prepared to continue waging a war of attrition that would see the civil population sacrificed to inflict even marginal losses on the allied invaders. Incidentally, none different from the Nazis and their "Volkssturm" battalions of children and infirm elderly. The nuclear bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki gave the Emperor and more moderate leadership of Imperial Japan a plausible and honorable way to bow out without having their population eradicated in what would be a protracted and pointless extension of the war.