I think there is a time and place for giving up.  I don't think it's now, but I also don't think staying and fighting for freedom in Cuba is a worthy endeavor.  

Secession is our best hope imo 

 Good luck bro. I wish you well in Cuba. 

 What? 

I'm suggesting that the slaves(almost everyone) living in Cuba should leave and not "fight for freedom" some fights are not worth having.  

 Didn’t realize you were speaking in metaphor I thought you were Cuban lol 

 Not trying to be disrespectful but if you look at the communist plan to destabilize and destroy a capitalist society, there plan is being implemented every day. I agree we have to fight and never give up but we can’t ignore the fact that we are fighting behind enemy lines. 
https://m.primal.net/KKMe.jpg 

 I don’t care about what’s happened. I only care about what is yet to occur. We’re the adults now brother. It’s us. We have a seat at the table. It’s time to capitalize on that. 

 That I do agree with brother. I just don’t know if voting is all the effective anymore or if we are better off building a parallel economy outside the current fiat system. I guess we could do both… 

 We’re more of an infection / clean up of the tradfi system 

 I hope you are right 

 I think what HODL's trying to say is that he only cares about what can be, unburdened by what has been  

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