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 You guys are only now figuring out that the state hates untraceable money?

They delisted Monero because they can not track it. They allowed Bitcoin because they can. And now they delist LN, the one technology that was supposed to be Bitcoins saviour as a medium of exchange.

They are not against assets they can tax. They ate against money they don't know about and hence can not control.

This is the fight people were talking about 10 to 15 years ago in the space. For the last 6 years or so Monero was fighting alone. But now it seems Bitcoin and Monero will need to join forces to accomplish the goals of freedom money. 
 Amen. 
 The hubris of the most entrenched Bitcoin maxis will never allow them to consider Monero as an ally in ANYTHING, let alone something else entirely; we already saw the playbook with Cash after all. 
 Everybody gets and will get #bitcoin or/and #monero at the price and the cost they deserve 
 On that note, I've got to start using Monero more... it all starts with mining on my PC. 
 Everyone that actually gets bitcoin has exchanged it for monero or forever exited to gold (since cash has a use by date). Its that too few get bitcoin. 
 to be honest, it's stupidity. getting so deep in the cult like mentality that you aren't open to new ideas. the idea that you ONLY need Bitcoin in any circumatance is pure foolishness. all of your eggs in one basket.