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 Purism open source phone.  Convergence

https://pureos.net/videos/convergence-pureos-2.mp4 
 I love the idea of a linux phone, but I can't get on board at all without good app support. 
 It's what many people want and need.....hope it works well and succeeds 
 still waiting on the one i ordered in 2017 
 I want a pine phone, although purism's phone looks interesting
 
 I do not think I would ever use this... 
 Nice! Reminds me of a scene in some scifi movie where they fling files from one phone to the other, with phones apparently having full spacial awareness.

This Purism video is nice but I'd want to see a full walk through of an actual new user's experience with it, as it's probably just a gimmick.
 
 Agreed, good luck getting big tech to make more PWAs though.
The Discord and Slack desktop apps are essentially PWAs with extras. If more developers make their apps in react native or flutter instead of native languages (swift for ios, java/kotlin for android) it would be much easier to have parity across all platforms painlessly 
 If only apple would provide better support for them 
 Because they aren't allowed on app store right? 
 well, we don't need them in the app store, but we should be able to install them from our browsers and access them as if they are native apps 
 this works flawlessly on android.  
 Well, you can. 
 I see!  its only available for safari though. And is hidden behind the share option.  On android there is an install option.
 
 Mozilla tried an HTML-based application OS for a mobile phone but canceled this project. 
 Wasn't it pretty late though? Also web technology has advanced greatly since 2013 
 I agree. 
 I had one.  Bit clunky and slow with limited app selection

I also had an ubuntu phone which I really liked, but they never managed to get convergence to production levels, almost tho

Right now I have a degoogled e foundation phone, which is a better UX

Mainly use a regular android phone tho with termux and ssh into it

Gonna run a nostr relay locally, and connect it to my client, so that I'll get global feed, plus local 
 Wasn't it pretty late though? Also web technology has advanced greatly since 2013 
 I agree. 
 this works flawlessly on android.  
 I had one.  Bit clunky and slow with limited app selection

I also had an ubuntu phone which I really liked, but they never managed to get convergence to production levels, almost tho

Right now I have a degoogled e foundation phone, which is a better UX

Mainly use a regular android phone tho with termux and ssh into it

Gonna run a nostr relay locally, and connect it to my client, so that I'll get global feed, plus local 
 Surely it costs a billion dollars to produce a competitive handset?

I think people would buy a wifi enabled touchscreen pocket device that super simple was good with PWA, but had no sim, no 4/5G antenna or any of the expensive cpu/RAM that a modern phone has.

Why aim for a phone when an open source iPod touch is all that’s require? 
 Use your phone as a hotspot, and have a 5.5inch open source device for doing fun open source stuff. 
 Ubuntu phone was crowd funded, and it got quite a long way

Mark Shuttleworth could have funded it, but he said he thought it was against the spirit, which is fair enough

Linux on microsoft surface I hear works well

People are working on solutions, but they are largely niche

Give me a terminal, and I'm happy 
 Would love a Linux phone but GrapheneOS with FDroid and AuroraStore is working just fine for me at this point.