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c3c278de | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
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Yeah, almost all those people would have lived through the Holodomor.  I am not qualified to know what other options existed for someone who wanted to try to fight against the Soviet Union.  Were there regular Wehrmacht units taking Ukrainian volunteers?

Kind of like Finland I guess - if you wanted to fight off a Soviet invasion, you didn't have a lot of choice of allies at the time.
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Ned Yeung | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
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And now it's Moscow invading again... but at least this time their choice of allies is better.
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b75b0fe2 | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 @164ff7a2 @b541bfe5 The fact is that the SS kicked in doors and dragged humans to death camps. Rebellion is possible without placating that, as evidenced by the various underground movements.
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c3c278de | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
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Publicly honouring Hunka in the House of Commons was a terrible screw up.  But I'm reluctant to judge the choices of a person literally trapped between Hitler and Stalin, and about whom I know nothing but what I read in a Wikipedia page that didn't exist last week.
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b75b0fe2 | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 @164ff7a2 @b541bfe5 That wasn't the choice, is my point. That's a false dichotomy. Besides, being in one atrocity doesn't wash the sins away of participating in the next one.
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Ned Yeung | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
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Interesting you mention the Wikipedia page that didn't exist last week, because this is also what I discovered after reading the CPC comment that this could have been resolved "by a simple google search". I googled, and what I found was that only The Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies seemed to have a history on him, and everything else came out from this scandal, after we were alerted by said organization.
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Michael | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 @b541bfe5 @164ff7a2 @99da4819 It would be just like the CPC to have set this up to score cheap points. It’s what they do. That doesn’t excuse any lack of diligence in the speaker’s office of course.
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591996b9 | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 @b541bfe5 @164ff7a2 @99da4819 he also would have been 17/18 at the time. Nothing close to a mastermind in a position of authority or leadership. He was probably a kid in a hard place along with many others.
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b75b0fe2 | 1 years ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 @549f070b @b541bfe5 @164ff7a2 Old enough to understand murder. Anyways, why avoid the trial if your hands are clean? If he isn't connected to atrocities, why does he need to be harboured here? Contrary to how it may seem, Simon Wiesenthal didn't just pursue anyone with a Nazi party card. He pursued ones he had evidence that deserved to be tried.