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Comte de Sats Germain | 13 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 IMO, the nondenoms are failing miserably. The first thing we all need is a solid education in what the bible says, and where it comes from. Self study is ridiculously difficult. I'll give credit to the political church, both of them, for doing a much better job of structuring and maintaining spiritual curricula. 

I don't agree with their dogma, but I might actually just go to learn.
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mleku | 13 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 indeed, i'm getting the gist of that but i definitely am not going to a Catholic church, the idolatry is too offensive to me

so, yeah, good point, probably best to just see what's around near where i find myself and try them out, and go with what the spirit tells
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Comte de Sats Germain | 13 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +2 
 Yeah, the idolatry... So much idolatry. Its more than the statues for the Catholics and the bad art of the Orthodox - giving authority to {anything} is idolatry. 

When it comes to teaching, the big unsaid question is - how do you evoke the knife's edge of rationality, such that it leads to faith?

And I always point out that faith isn't belief. Those two words lead in different directions.