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Kanzan | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 and this

you have no idea what privacy guarantees you are getting with LN.
quit trying to sell it as a privacy solution.

https://i.nostr.build/KjshXTcV1l60JsJ0.jpg

https://d.nostr.build/0ua3oxgiHkycwJz8.pdf
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Cyph3rp9nk | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Censorship and privacy are not the same thing, many possible attacks that voltage mentions have been solved, you show your ignorance and that you only know how to repeat what a third party says.

The reality is that you are not able to de-anonymize or even use a single lightning transmission and neither is chainalysis.
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Kanzan | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I share information that is relevant to the discussion. You on the other hand, have never said a single thing to refute any of the information I've ever shared.

You just repeat yourself and spew ad hominems.
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shortwavesurfer2009 | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Also, if lightning provides any measurable degree of privacy and or creates any measurable degree of privacy in the future, it will be de-listed from every centralized exchange so fast it will make your head spin just as Monero is going through now. They do not want you to have privacy, whether it be lightning or Monero or whatever. If it lets you have privacy, they will not allow it if they can help it.