Oddbean

Sports being desegregated fixes this. I say make sports a meritocracy. Or for those who disagree, why not segragate sports further? And while we're at it, shouldn't the workplace be gender segregated?

Physical differences between men & women would just eliminate female sports entirely if there was desegregation. The 203rd ranked male played the Williams sisters in tennis & mopped the floor with them. A male highschool soccer team beat the professional women's team. Sex based segregation is the only reason women have a presence in sports at all.

I agree that most if not all women would not be world champions. But most if not all men will also not be world champions. And no it doesn't mean the end of female participation in sports. People would participate in soortsa that they enjoy, for the love of the sport, not some arbitrary trophy. Sports should adopt the ladder system that gaming/British soccer uses. The lower leagues would likely be mixed with men and women competing together and it's likely that the best teams would be all men. Also this logic will lead you to color segregated leagues in the NBA.

I think you fail to appreciate how much more dangerous it would be for any female to play sports at all. If highschool males can beat professional females in soccer, the idea that highschool females would even want to compete & risk getting slide tackled is kinda ridiculous. I was once bicycle kicked in the face when diving to head the ball. If I was almost half my weight & female it would have probably been way worse, might have broken my neck. And what you are describing sounds like you don't want anyone to keep score either... "just let people play because they love it." It sounds like you live in some sort of fantasy world. There is nothing wrong with competition (which is kinda the point) or with enjoying the competition so long as it is SANE & HEALTHY & generally fair. Segregating out the trans faggots & giving them their own league would make more sense. But then they wouldn't have anyone but each other to try to take advantage of & there'd be no established system to benefit from so they almost certainly wouldn't want that. Maybe put them in with the special olympics people. Competing against other retarded men actually seems like the correct placement.

I disagree, on all accounts. I absolutely want score to be kept and I think competition is vital to self improvement. In the cases of men being stronger, this should be resolved by a system of meritocracy. Only weak AF men would be fighting women. Jui Jitsu people roll co-ed all the time. I've had my ass kicked by women. You again are lumping all women and men into two broad categories that I don't think are as clear as you are implying. There are weak and small men out there and there are strong massive women who might be being held back from their ultimate potential by being allowed to only play against other females. The ultimate minority is the individual.

Practically I agree, but it is a cop out answer. Your response sounds like everyone I tell about Bitcoin. Why not just keep the system we have, it's worked well so far. It would be practically difficult to implement what I'm describing, but I don't think that makes it fundamentally the wrong idea. Lots of great ideas are going to be difficult to implement......but very worth it(Bitcoin, private roads, minarchy in general etc.) Well someday we'll get into this in person😂. Thanks for the rousing debate. I'll agree to disagree.

I don't understand why, if there are a paralympics, why not have a separate transolympics and then we are done with this argument of gendering. Let them have their own olympics and biologicals have their own.

Yeah they could do that, but they won't. This movement won't be satisfied until they have forced everyone else to participate and affirm their fantasy. I still think have everyone compete together and then the trans dudes will likely just get no attention......which seems like the only thing they actually want