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 Am I the only one who didn’t know that the Stanford prison experiment was a complete scam?  Looking back, it was referenced constantly in my social psych lectured in undergrad. Now I understand that it’s only so well-known because Zambardo was manipulating the scientific community and media to make money & gain power. Shocking! 

Important reminder to be critical of “science” until it can be proven as _science_

And highly recommend you watch the doc on Hulu if this is new info to you too. 
 What's the name of the documentary? What year was it released?  
 The Stanford Prison Experiment: Unlocking the Truth. Streaming on Hulu via National Geographic. Was just released last week on 11/13. It’s wild. 
 Wait how was it a scam?? 
 The phD who led the study rigged it to get the results he was after. A ton of issues with the study - the guards didn’t know they were subjects, he told the public there were no rules except no physical harm but he did a day of training to prime them to be aggressive, etc. highly recommend checking out the doc. Many of the subjects came back and share their POV 
 What would you say is the main takeaway of the study then? Is there anything of value that can be derived from it? 
 Yes, when directed leadership, people have the capacity to do bad things- as we have seen historically. However, it is not an individual’s first nature to be evil, violent, bad (whatever synonym resonates) unless influenced. The current understanding of the study is that when given power, all people are bad, which is incorrect and harmful. 
 What’s the name of the documentary? 
 You can't conclude that it's not in an individual's nature to be violent.

I think all you should do is throw away the false conclusions and go back to not knowing. 
 Agree with you on this. The point I was making was that the study doesn’t prove that people are inherently evil when given access to power. Can see how my phrasing sounded absolute and appreciate the clarification. 
 BBC replicated the experiment in 2002 and found that group dynamics and leadership were major factors in influencing the guard’s treatment toward prisoners, I.e. void of leadership - the guards were not motivated to participate in violence or abuse toward the prisoners. It’s covered in the doc and easily found online. That’s why I used that specific language when responding to what conclusions could still be derived from the study. However, given the obvious flaws in the design of the study - I’m in agreement that we should default to not knowing. 
 I consider anything that isn't pure theoretical mathematics as a scam.
And even Bertrand Russell showed that pure Maths is a type of scam too...  
 and Gödel was like, it can do everything but provide the certainty you seek 🤷‍♀️ 
 So many lies we’ve been told.  So many lies. 
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