Oddbean new post about login | logout Nostr isn’t for everyone. Best to start accepting that now. It’s what the legacy options hope for for those who don’t have the stomach for this open air arena. Learn to curate better or toughen up. Or leave. That’s the reality of it.
With a suitable frontend it is of course for everyone. We just started yet. It is like saying "the internet is not for everyone" in the 90s.
We already have suitable front end options.
No, we don't. Most of them are only a year or so old and barely beta.
I suppose I don’t need much
Maybe. I sometimes post notes from the command line, so same. But most people need much more and we're both going to be amazed at how cool everything is, within a year.
The command line? Tell me more about this please
You can use the command line to write notes, if you import some Nostr libraries or install the CLI.
Didn't know at all that there was a cli client. Are we talking about algia? It seems i can use this with termux...
I've been using an altered version of @liminal script. I think he's using the typescript library. I think @JeffG has a CLI repo somewhere. 🤔
What i found so far was this https://github.com/mattn/algia written in go. I assume that with go installed, i can install this too. If you find something else you can inform me, i always like cli staff. Also another question. Is there a minimal relay for offline use with raspberry pi zero or even with termux? If you know...
Just use the one linked to from Nostrudel's relay management page.
I'm using this with my raspberry pi zero 2 w. https://github.com/mattn/nostr-relay
We aren't even at the end of the beginning, yet, and people are sounding so defeatist. 😂 We are so friggin early.
Right. It reminds me of this picture showing how people though an electrified future would look like. I bet back then they said "I won't use electric light. There is darkness for a reason." Haha. https://image.nostr.build/c4035adc7ed47ab38afcf005462e7c73a4c609f68070391f0911087c00ec3574.jpg
😂 fr. People aren't bullish enough. I am so here for this.
We’re really comparing social media to a utility? C’mon now.
Nostr is 💯 a digital utility; a communication and identification protocol. Instead of identifying machines with IP addresses and people with e-mail adresses, you identify entities (real or virtual, human or machine) with keypairs. And instead of making webpages and uploading them to webservers, you make notes and upload them to relays. Social media is just one of endless use cases. This will eventually eat the Internet, basically.
Idk, I think I really enjoy my life outside of the internet that I can live without this if I have to drop it at this very moment.
Nah you live your life on the internet. You bank, flight tickets, chatting/sharing locations to meet up for ski, your client work and communications etc. Im sure you could drop socials. But i doubt you could drop the internet. Try living without your phone for 7 days. Or better live without the internet (means no asking friends to book stuff on the internet on your behalf).
I actually have. In fact I do that once a year for more than a fortnight during hunting season. Totally off-grid and by my choosing.
Hontoni? Like totally totally off? Man i couldn’t imagine. Sure ive been in places where there is no signal or wifi. And then camp for a few days and then leave. But sort of planned camping duration and with a car with fuel and lots of supplies (food, medicine, whatever else). Also thanks to elon even if we choose to not be connected the signal still surrounds you (see image) and if needed can be used to locate devices unless your stuffing it inside a faraday. https://image.nostr.build/50a1bfa7c132b0c559f325364788456f70cba0047f5a3c763ea7c436457ed077.jpg
Off grid where a phone is utterly useless. Myself and a few other hunters out in the wild. We hunt and forage. We don’t take much other than caping and hunting gear. That’s life in our part of the alps.
Okay, but I think framing yourself as the "standard Nostr user", when you don't even care about having electricity, would shrink the potential market down to about 2000 people, including some reclusive tribes living in the Amazon and Himalayan hermits.
My girl, there is nothing standard about me at all. I now do believe quite a lot of people here are wired slaves.
Well, we're software developers. 🤷♀️
So you don’t have a life outside of this space? Is that what I’m getting out of your insistence that Nostr, the protocol is your life? You don’t hug your loved ones? You get emailed sustenance or something? You eat and shit code? You stick to this idealism so hard it makes you sound crazy. I also feel sorry for you if that’s the case.
No, I'm saying you think it's weird that we care about software development so much, but a lot of us are software developers. That's like complaining that cooks think a lot about food or kindergarden teachers think a lot about early child development.
I don’t think it’s weird. I do think that that is your job, a hobby, a passion however, you are still made of flesh and have real life needs. Needs that software or any amount of your brilliance in coding will never solve.
Dude it’s weird you can’t give it a rest You bitched about mean people on the internet because you’re soft as fuck AK dared to think differently than you You can’t let it go. Get the fuck over it you cry baby
Lol anon I dont see raised voices between anyone until you came in. AK and Lae were very civil. They just getting to know each other.
I know you think I'm a dorky computer nerd and a loser, but maybe a dorky computer nerd loser understands the significance and potential of a communications protocol better than you do. I'm passionate about it because I understand it, and not just because I'm nuts.
No shit :P sherlock. Majority of the people here end up staring at a screen 8+ hours. Its why nostr exists in the first place. Devs writing code, and they stare at screens a lot. Your lifestyle makes you probably more fit and healthy and happy than 90% of people here.
I wouldn't want to live without the Internet. I like things like refrigerated food, health care, and electricity.
Really? How does your banking work? How do you communicate with remote friends?
Same here. I’ve never used instagram. Joined Facebook back in 2008, lasted three months, never went back. Perhaps I can remember no internet, no mobiles etc too clearly so it all still feels a bit secondary to real life and relationships.
Guys you really don't want to accept, that even if you don't use internet actively it is a part of your life? Really?
Nostr is a protocol. Just like cables and outlets, amps and volts are a protocol for electricity.
Then nostr has failed. The purpose of being a protocol is that people are free to build apps on top that can display whatever they want.
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