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 Some people are retarded.

Is an LSP trusted if you pay it out-of-band in hopes they open a channel in return? Absolutely. 

Fortunately, LSP is just a made-up term by some company, that is now reselling blockstream cloud nodes. Coincidence? LSP's aren't a real thing in the protocol, you don't need one... you can just open a channel like you would make any other chain transaction.

Whataboutism doesn't address the fact that circle-jerk-coins don't improve anything... just mindless cope for pedantic fetishists that were too dense to bother understanding the profundities of Bitcoin. 
 So lightning scales globally and trustlessly? Hooray! Deferred on-chain transactions for everyone.  
 Lightning doesn't have to be perfect for ECashers to be complete morons, but that said it does scale sufficiently and trust is optional.

Whatabout Lightning all day if you want, it won't change the fact that ECash doesn't improve anything. Just another retarded custodial shitcoin that skates by on privacy virtue signaling by the same retards that think they're private behind Tor and their CIA run VPN. 
 waste of time to argue with with zealots 
 I love ad hominem attacks. Probably because I'm retarded. 
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 Left curve maximalist right here 
 Idk what’s being said or who is right or wrong, but I’m glad you guys can talk it out. 
 We've even met in person and were cordial! He's my favorite ecash disrespector.
One day I hope to smoke a blunt with him or share a pint.  
 Ad hominem would be dismissing the case for ECash because it is made retards, that's not what I have done... I have said there is simply no case for ECash. 

Maybe spend more time on vocabulary and less time on ways you can sign useless strings over to yourself.