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 Wow, Apple lost a customer for life today.

My laptop screen broke for no apparent reason yesterday. Today I learn that the laptop is 60 days out of warranty. Sticker price $650 for repair (lol no).

When I got in contact with a 3rd party repair shop they let me know that Apple has hard blocked screen repair on newer models by locking the part ID to the motherboard. Oh and also the repair shop owner is currently being sued by apple and had the police and the local Apple manager banging on his door at 1am about a laptop.

Enough is enough. 🙄 I guess I have to find a loaner laptop to deliver my presentation next week (which is a Keynote file). Then I will be in the market for a linux laptop.

Any recommendations? I heard system76 was good. 
 System76 FTW 
 Dell has Ubuntu laptops that don't come with the System 76 price tag and weird custom OS. 
 I tried getting a Dell Linux and it gave an immediate blue screen out of the box. Went with System76 and had zero issues. Pop OS also feels better than stock Ubuntu. 
 I had a lot of problems when I tried to run Ubuntu on a Dell xps years ago. 
 Pop OS personal laptop review:

1) lightweight and fast
2) shit power adapter
3) thermal management system of a heaving siberian husky in the sahara
4) the OS just works
5) build feels plasticy and cheap at times 
 Yeah no idea what's going on with their fans 
 Poor design, execution. The final 10% difference with the product created by apple makes a huge difference.

I dont hold it against @System76 :popos: :ubuntu: - I think they are doing a great job with extremely limited resources. Would love to see them succeed. 
 Ah sorry I should've warned you but you're on Dell's special "screw this customer" list. Their stuff is for other people, not you. 
 Not sure why so many people love Apple laptops when compared to Linux. 
 If you don’t need a lot of house power, older thinkpads that are upgradable.
T480 were the last ones you can replace and upgrade yourself easily. 
But if you need new and more power house then Framework or sys76  
 yeah I need some horsepower 
 Sickening...

I have a Macbook Air, about 3yrs old. Chose it primarily because it runs well without any fan...

Time to find a fanless Linux portable, if such exists...😜😳 
 wow, that sux...you could maybe just convert the Keynote to LibreOffice or PP... 
 On linux loaded laptops, there is also https://puri.sm and http://earth.starlabs.systems.
I don't own any of them, too expensive in my country.
My to go is a lenovo thinkpad loaded with a good stable Debian.
Good luck finding and choosing your machine.
Welcome to freedom, fuck Apple. 
 Stay away from Asus laptops if you're going to run Linux. Lots of driver issues there.  
 I bought a Framework 13” AMD, and it’s a novel, great device. But there are warts born of early days. 

I also have a $315 refurb’d Lenovo Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 8. It’s blown me away. Check eBay and Amazon for gen 8, 9, or 10. Throw Linux on and marvel at the juice that OS will squeeze from ~3-4 year old hardware. Happy to help. I made the move from Mac < 2 months ago. 
 Just get something without dedicated GPU (except you really need it) as there are always weird problems with the drivers in my experience.
Framework laptops seem pretty cool, the new Thinkpad T16 (Gen 3) is also very attractive.  
 Lenovo Carbon X1 .. anything Gen6 onwards 🤜🤛 
 Classic Thinkpads FTW. Can software Coreboot a few of them. Cheap, bombproof, upgradeable, immortal. What's not to like? https://youtu.be/ZQX4FLrm9ac 
 Lenovo thinkpads. I still haven't heard a positive review about System 76. 
 I just upgraded my daily driver laptop of 7 years to a newer generation ThinkPad and I'm very excited for it to get here. 
 I kinda like the Samsung galaxy book. Super small, lightweight and portal. I mainly use a desktop however. 
 One of these days I'll build a desktop again, but I've gotten so used to the mobility of a laptop. I haven't had one for years. 
 here's one:

was the first linux distro i was able to find that supported my AMD Radeon video card

Zorin is another distro that also is nice for this, their UI enhancements are better than PopOS though

idk about the hardware though... i actually paid for zorin pro because the broad support for new AMD hardware in linux is so bad i could scream 
 yes, to be clear, PopOS is very nice for steam gaming on linux 
 I used pop for my daily driver for about a year before switching back to Debian. 

And that's good to know about their laptops. 
 yeah, i would be vaguely interested in getting a system76 laptop that has amd chips in it because they are actually making the effort to support that

the way that people disregard AMD's awesome tech out there really disturbs me, because it really is awesome, simple, and cheap, and the old days of hot RED is not a thing, nor is the bad power consumption

Zen architecture current generation and the previous have been a massive advance in the tech because they produce power efficient results without the complexity, and the CPUs themselves, this is why i have been a Ryzen user for about 8 years, have more cache memory, and as a programmer, i appreciate the benefit with that... small, highly expensive computations like cryptography benefit from this kind of bigger fast memory cache 
 system76 is a good option to transition to linux with minimal pain for a mac user, who doesn't want to use windows 
 Recently set up a Lenovo Yoga 7i as a dual boot Ubuntu/ Windows machine.  All working well with bit operating systems. 
 https://starlabs.systems/

https://puri.sm/

Learn to build systems or you can buy theses explore all the form factors

We are still early 
 go for a ThinkPad  
 I like Thinkpads.  
 Had a similar experience and ended up utterly disappointed with my most expensive MabBook Pro a few years ago when they introduced the touchbar and butterfly keyboard. It was my forth MacBook — I was happy with the first two models, but had to upgrade every three years to have decent performance. After almost 15 years of being an Apple customer, I got sick and tired of the hardware becoming more expensive and less robust with every generation.

Long story short: Switched to a decent Tuxedo computer running Pop!_OS and I never want to go back or somewhere else. This setup is working flawlessly for five years now and the hardware still performs like a charm. I got 40 gigs of RAM when I bought it, which wouldn't even have been an option if I had upgraded to another MacBook Pro back then — and I paid half of what I spent on my previous MBP. 

Linux has come very far during the last years and though it took me a while getting accustomed with some of the software changes (your milage may very, depending on the field your working in and what kind of apps you use) I am more than happy with making the switch, especially since Pop! is a really user friendly OS — strong recommendation from my side.

All the best for switching! :)  
 definitely avoid lenovo

asus make very nice laptops, so do IBM

HP, MSI are ok, but not great

if you want to just unpack a linux thing and use it, system76 is good that way

if you are ok with using a proprietary OS, my personal recommendation from years doing tech support is asus, nicest overall for the price, is ASUS... Thinkpads are solid also good, but kinda dated looking even the new ones 
 oh yeah, compaq is pretty good too, probably up there with asus and ibm 
 You can acutally install Linux Mint onto a Mac. Look it up. plus its fun 
 Yeah let's not do apple anymore 😒  
 Short term solution is run your Mac headless (just plug in an external screen) much cheaper than fixing the screen and you can still use it while sorting out your next machine.

https://www.theverge.com/22965732/macbook-decapitation-slabtop-mod-mac-studio-event-rumor-keyboard-computer-diy