@348f4b7b Boss lady was looking very wise. I think that after listening, along with her, I maybe have a better understanding of what may happen. Listening to people with deep knowledge of myriad areas allows one to see the threads and get a better chance of knowing the form of the web. So I think the gray guy is taking over and Wagner is done, except as you said maybe not in CAR. 

 @5be5a387 thanks for the feedback, will share with iur indefatigable @3e88557c 

 @348f4b7b @3e88557c She is wonderful, and so is Beverly. 

 @5be5a387 @3e88557c totally agree regarding Krassi and @f412cf02 - the beeb should be proud to have them