That was an enjoyable conversation gents.

I agree with so much of what you both said.

I think the final shedding of fiat Eric is probably around the fears that he still has.

This is a simplistic dualism of how I see things but I think it might help. 

Truth = Love = Bitcoin = Spiritual
Material = Fiat = Fear = Lies

You are more than your mind & physical body. When you better know who you are, you know that there is nothing to fear. Moments of fear & uncertainty, transform quickly into excitement. You know that when you go into the unknown all that you will discover is more of yourself.

Look to the deepest fears that you still carry with you & ask "what is it that I believe to be true for this fear to still be there?"

Try to articulate your belief rather than suppress the fear that arises from it. 

I loved the authenticity of the conversation the most. I can only imagine what the unrecorded conversations were like. 💚🫂