@c8ef4612 

Ok so how do you deal with people who generally today are only handle with violence or coercion.

How do you stop someone who is harming or torturing another without using force?

Presuming you are ok with using biolence to prevent a greater violence then who gets to determine that? Is it a court? In which case your back to governments that use violence... Is it some ransom individual? In which case you are back to a mob applying that violence.

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 @b05df304 

"How do you stop someone who is harming or torturing another without using force?"

I have repeatedly pointed out that self-defense is the only justification for violence. And it is a right I have, hence I can delegate that right to someone else. I don't have to, but I can.

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 @c8ef4612 

How does that work when your locked in a basement of the evil commune and they are torturing you... you wont have any way to call or obtain someone to defend you, and you cant defend yourself... So shit out of luck and you just die your dropped your guard for a moment?

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