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 failed to secure grant funding for a big part of damus android. Is vc inevitable? 😔 will keep trying elsewhere. 
 Godspeed. We use Damus every day and love it. 
 Friends don’t lie. What was it, Will?

Didn’t want you to contribute, right?

🤷🏻‍♂️ 
 Maybe if you shared some secret plans with the class they might zap you some fundage.
Crowd source this great open source project we all love to scroll and post on 

#grownostr
#fundamethyst
#saynotoVC 
 Sorry to hear that, it's a worthy cause. Best of luck 💪 
 How much ? 
 Sorry to hear that. What sort of mechanisms for ROI could Damus Android provide to VCs? Premium subscription of sorted for gated features? What would be its value proposition over other Nostr android clients?  
 No crowdfunding? Seems like an untapped resource. Identify something you only get as a sponsor, like "new features" are held back a month. 
 Sorry to hear that. If you need me to buy an Android mascot suit and dance around to raise money, I will. 
 Always willing to go the extra mile 💜🤣🫂 
 I gotchu. 🫂💜 
 🤣
https://i.nostr.build/B6el.jpg 
 So many opportunities for .. 
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 @OpenMike 👀😂 
 Haha, the costume whisperer 
 😂😂😂 Mr. Derek is in need  
 Would you *really* take the vc route even with 0 funding from elsewhere? 
 @ODELL this sounds like something OpenSats deals with. Now I'd never volunteer money what's not my own but I'm sure they would be able to point a dev in the right direction 
 🤔 
 Will double my efforts to look for ways for damus to be profitable. Grant funding is not sustainable or reliable. It is very likely that Damus will fail down this route, but I need to try. The only way for damus to be independent is to be powered by our users. 
 LFG! 💪 
 I was listening to a podcast last night which interviewed a film maker who has made two films which broke records, pissed off the studio systems, and were entirely crowd funded. They started a group level where you pay a small amount per month to see early footage, and vote on the direction of what is being shot. 
Seems like something of this nature might be worth exploring. 
 this is a reference to Angel Studios I believe  
 When damus subscription with cool additional features 🤔 
 Will just gotta drop the Damuscoin ICO/IEO and let it moon. VCs will lose their minds. 😂 
 What features do you want in it?  
 Notes storage so jb will not be nuking some notes for example😂 Stories, animated stickers, animated status icons, dm group chats. 
 Can we maybe consider a subscription model like patrion with Apple Pay option if required? Maybe that will open other options and note zaps? Like maybe $1 a month is probably very affordable for many and include the relay with notifications, etc. 🐶🐾🫡 
 I like one-time purchase fee for tools. Then never update the original tool and make another tool for another one time purchase fee. 
 iOS folks with zaps enabled are able to do the % donation, is there a certain percentage that would get you there? 
 It only comes out to $30 a day and its decreasing 
 How about a crowdfunding campaign for that amount that resets every day or every week? 
 How do I turn on the % donation? 
 You go to Wallet in the settings. 
 Advertising or user fees or both. 
 Doggo gets it 
 Oh @ralf 💜💜💜🫂🫂🫂 
 What about a model where you add a new feat and only make it open source once your funding goal for the feat is paid? 
 Are you:
- on GitHub sponsorships?
- on Patreon or something similar? Don’t be above taking fiat, you can always convert it to corn. 
- what happened to the Damus Purple plan? Would you be willing to accept payment through App/Play Store? 
 I'm an andriod user currently, I would definitely try Damus Andriod.  
 Same. 
 Charge us an annual fee. Happy to pay. 
 Me too 
 Zap splits in profile setup and on the main drop down profile page would help a lot. I support you on my own, so choose not to do zap splits, but it’s a bit of a chore for a non-technical user. I know there are technical issues with this, but just a suggestion. 
 Yes. Many ways to do it, from subscription model, new (paid) themes/skins, additional features to taxed zaps or zaps to buy with credit card. I Always hated the (optional) zap tax, too fiat for me. Zapped you classic instead. Damus Team doesn’t disappoint. Cannot wait for #textonly mode some day 🤙 Much love man. 
 Please charge us 🙏 
 I second this sentiment. I’ve been saying it from the beginning, I will pay a subscription. I’ll ride shotgun on this bitch, Will. Or on the roof. Really, just squeeze me in somewhere. 
 I’ll pay as long as I can pay in sats 
 @jb55 , making participation in a free market place to trade services or products to everyday users might generate revenue? 
 Have you considered nostrocket?  
 Ideas, work towards allowing polls on damus then crowd source ideas for that self-sustaining profit.  At the very least people will be more apt to go along with it if they have a hand in forming it. 
 I would be happy to pay for a subscription at #damus it’s really worth it and I’m completely convinced of it. 
 Do a cheese fund raiser once a quarter like Wikipedia.  
 Maybe form a nonprofit and get on some charitable trust donation lists? They are required to donate a percentage of the total asset base every year. 
 this is it ⚡️ 
 All zaps route through your channel and scrape fees on the way through. 
 Idea:

1. Determine monthly cost.
2. Divide cost by # users.
3. App generates each user a donation request for their share each month.
4. As users increase, request amounts decrease, improving chances of them being funded.
5. Break even? (: 
 This one. 
 Or we donate to you sir
We all must work and help you 
 Why aren't you using Flutter so that you can build for web, iOS and Android?  
 what is grand vision/biz model? is android critical to that success? 
 join forces with @simplex ? 
 VC is not inevitable. Don't feel down about it @jb55 we're trying one of the most difficult ways... we're doing our best and we'll keep at it! You're not alone in this fren 🫂💜 
 🫂 
 🫂 
 Receiving VC funding is not so bad. 
 It’s on par with selling your sole to the devil, but not always 🐶🐾🫂 
 Pretty much every tech founder does VC seed rounds nowadays. I guess what I meant is that it’s not uncommon to go via the VC way. 
 Good point. It is an option for sure 🐶🐾🫂 
 VC will likely severely undermine nostr's mission and principles 
 Facebook did pretty well since it went public. 
 ask the users to pay 
 Your post is being well-received.
Added to the https://nostraco.in/hot feed 
 Premium client-side features that are free if you sideload.  
 Did you apply to @OpenSats? 
 I'm gonna lean out and casually tag @jack here.... 
 fiat subs probably the easiest way. unfortunately bitcoin subs don't auto renew ;(

or... fortunately? haha. 
 There's no auto subs for a human. Maybe u are talking about subs for bots ? 
 Here in Brazil, the new government is trying to push a new tax on people who produce content on the internet. It would be fantastic to replace platforms like Onlyfans (or Privacy.com.br, an OF alternative very popular here).

There is a market for a premium, polished, and easy-to-use multiplatform app to monetize digital content(and use Bitcoin to cut credit card and government). You get a tiny little slice of the pie.

If I had your skills,  Will, I would work on that.   
 The grant grind is the worst. :( Which team did you submit to? Your work is innovative and I feel like there’s definitely a few philanthropists that would be in your corner sans the vc route 
 send sats nostriches...

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 Innovation is the way to go in this path.  
 https://brave.com/faq/ #how-brave-makes-money 
 Will damus meet the goal of a vc company ?  
 Maybe it’s time to move past the startup phase and launch a paid service? You offer a service, charge a fee. 

All the other social apps went through this and they only came up with 3 funding models: subscription, ads, or collect everyone’s data and sell it. 
 NO! I would highly advise AGAINST getting involved with evil corporate overlords (vc), most of them who are greedy, unethical and only care about profits. 

Perhaps, 🎾Serena William’s Very Tall Husby Alexis Ohanian could help you or have some good ideas! 

Surely, you must know someone who has LOTS of money and a person of Integrity, Honesty & Quality? 
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 Beat me by seconds! 
 Was either me or someone else 😀🫂 
 Was either me or someone else 😀🫂 
 Storage and broadcasting notes kind like makes sense. Just also suggested to implement this to avoids future nukes lol