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hmichellerose | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Both can be right, but at this point they are very trite talking points.
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reltbracco | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Being right and prevailing in a debate is very different from being right and shutting down a debate. 

Worse is being right in some cases, but not in the particular debate they use the talking point to shut down.