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 @c3e4f7fd Originally I was all for it... until last Sunday when I actually had to sit through it going down a main road, down a big hill as a passenger. I now think your suggestion of the Oxford model would be a better approach.

Councils can choose to make some roads 30mph but in our case they haven't. 
 @d4b81373 Let's hope some of them do it, otherwise there will be a backlash and it'll be lost. It works well in Oxford. 
 @c3e4f7fd Too late for that. The spite and vitriol coming out of most alleged adults is insane. 
 @d4b81373 I spend a lot of my time at the moment monitoring the effectof extreme polarisation in the USA, it worries me a lot that I'm seeing it taking hold at home too. 
 @c3e4f7fd It's not so much in the way that politics is polarised at the moment, most things are 50/50ish (Ok, 52/48). I have never seen a backlash like this in the entire time I've been interested in Welsh politics.

What worries me though is it appears to be coordinated by the usual suspects and some others I haven't identified yet.

I also know four people personally just this week who have had their FB accounts hacked to post anti-20mph stuff. Someone is deliberately causing havoc. 
 @d4b81373 @c3e4f7fd isn't that part of the point though? If going in the car feels slow, and an electric bicycle can match or beat the journey time, be cheaper, easier to park, etc. Etc.

Feels to me that there are more benefits to a blanked 20 than mostly-but-some-aren't