Oddbean new post about login | logout your body can tell the difference between some fake ass blue light and the fucking SUN good morning
Arrrgh! 🏴 good morning, Jack
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Good morning Jack 🌞
That's why I covered my clock radio and bought a sundial. Then I got in shit for being late all through the winter. Got any more hardcore knowledge for us?
Our biology is optimized for nature is hardcore?
Yeah until I read this I’d been solely reliant on the light from my clock radio and wondered why I was lacking so much in vitamin day. But I saw this note and my life is changed forever!!!
the blue light doesn't warm up your skin, I'm not sire how that affects the vitamin D production but for sure the Sun is not repleceable
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Based on your profile pic where we can see that you already burnt you nose, maybe it's a good idea to stay indoors and soak up some blue light instead of risking more skin damage. Your skin will definitely thank you. btw you only need 10-30mn of sun exposure to get vitamin D
Wrong. Your cosmetic intuition does not correlate with health. Sunlight doesn’t cause melanoma either. You won’t be able to find me a melanoma autopsy with high Vitamin D which you think they’d have from “too much” sun. But their bodies have many other dysregulation problems probably due to disconnection with nature and blue light toxicity. If you think humans should hide from the fireball mammals have evolved with for millions of years that is responsible for the ENTIRE food web, idk what to tell you.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'cosmetic intuition' but yeah sunspots equal sun damage. I never said melanomas are caused "only" by sun exposure, there are multiple factors involved like age, fair skin, family history, maybe even genetics. But excessive sun exposure DOES increase the risk of developing melanoma (although if you don't trust medicine and scientific studies that's another issue). Disconnection with nature causing skin cancer? LOL wtf? I guess people can hug trees all day long but that won't prevent them from getting sick. And I don't really get the comparison with other animal species because you can't compare our skin to an animal's covered in fur. So yeah the sun is essential for life on earth but humanity has evolved and realized that prolonged sun exposure is harmful, I really don't see why it's insulting to the sun if we decide not to overexpose ourselves to it LOL. Like are we supposed to worship the sun or something?
I’m referring to your assumption of burnt nose = unhealthy. More nuance is required. I’d bet heavily that a burnt nose is not a problem for Jack. Even if he burnt it once a month for life. You trust all medicine and “scientific studies”? You realize you sound like the Fauci simps saying “trust the science”? Acting like science is settled is anti-science. Disconnection with nature is me referring to biophysics. We are all electromagnetic beings below the chemistry level that are regulated by sunlight, water, and electrons from the earth. Packaged into sunlight is the food we eat (food web). Most western world citizens are heavily disconnected from nature with bright blue lights at night, avoiding sun, bombardment from harmful EMFs, and insulated from all electron sharing with the earth. So yes, melanoma and other cancers can definitely be traced back to how our biology and mitochondria is regulated (or not) by nature. Humanity has NOT evolved to be incompatible with long periods of sun exposure. Lifestyle and society has atrophied our abilities to build a solar callous and store melanin in the biggest organ in our body. These abilities can be regained over time through priming and morning sunlight exposure.
I'm not saying he burnt his nose in the sense of a sunburn but more like irreversible sunspots. Yeah, I trust the science since I'm a pharmacist, so I guess you could say I'm a scientist too? for the connection between health and nature I still don't really get it m, but if you've got studies to back this up feel free to share. Honestly I'm not really sure where you're going with this. Are humans supposed to spend hours in the sun just because their ancestors did? Prehistoric humans had to spend hours in the sun out of necessity; I'm pretty sure if you offered them a roof, a couch, and an air conditioner they wouldn't say no. I get that some people love the sun but there are people who love cigarettes too and that doesn't make them any less harmful. If you want to believe in some unfounded theory that you can train your skin to adapt to the sun nobody's stopping you. But the facts are there: the sun damages the skin.
I have trained my own skin to adapt to the sun. Last summer I worked up to 2 hrs straight at UV12 without burning or sunspots and I’m caucasian + 25% Irish. There is more nuance to sun damaging skin. Do you know what POMC is? This will give you a great intro to the biophysics that I’m talking about: https://youtu.be/d7qjh4BIGbc?si=pTlUGWL-Dlf00YKz
it's a 2 hour video https://m.primal.net/HtXJ.jpg
Quantum biology is complex. Use 2x speed if you need.
I'm starting to regret commenting on the initial post since I'm finding myself reading scientific articles https://m.primal.net/HtYF.jpg
I will watch some of it
I appreciate your open mind
Before watching the video, there's something I don't really understand. so according to google there are 12 million doctors worldwide. I would say 99.99% probably agree on core medical principales. BUT some people choose to listen to the minuscule percentage of doctors who really sound untrustworthy (I even checked this doctor's linkedIn profile). These 'doctors' seem to be pushing these bizarre theories likely for some kind of personal gain. going on podcasts and stuff like that. I think it's really unfortunate that people have such a trust issue with the medical community.
Covid ruined trust in the medical community for a long time. J&J, Pfizer, and Purdue also wrecked trust in your pharma world. Back to Jack, focus on the message instead of the messenger. Bizarre to you does not mean wrong. I agree this is fringe stuff but I think that is because academia and “big medicine” move painfully slow. And painfully unethically. By the time MDs finish their residency, I’d bet more than half the stuff they’ve learned is either wrong or not even close to the full story.
I think there's no point in going into the subject of covid which seems to be a sensitive topic for some people, but in general I really don't understand the critisim of doctors and the medical community's handling of it. They're just normal people who got vaccinated like everyone else. If there's a problem with the vaccine they and their families will be affected too. It's not that medicine is moving slowly, I just don't think there are any major discoveries that would have a huge impact. I think they are mainly working on protocols and guidelines for the management of pathologies. And big pharma is mainly working on targeted therapies in the form of antibodies that will target specific proteins in tumors. I'm still watching the video I will tell what I think about it tomorrow.
Alright I watched 75% of the video and I really made an effort to follow along but I really think there is a lot of nonsense in it. Maybe some parts are legit but since he also says a lot of nonsense you can't really tell the difference between what's real and what's false. He throws some statements out there with such conviction making it seem like real scientific facts supported by real scientific evidence but he probably just made them up. For example, he says Blue light makes vitamin A, Vitamin A is yellow, Blue light makes you fat.. Especially the last point makes no sense at all. Saying that UV rays affect people's weight is just ridiculous. I personally avoid the sun like the plague and I weigh less than 50 kg. I found these articles that you could read a little bit about the subject, at least there is all the bibliography: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37237866/ https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3921/10/6/920 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5905393/ This guy is definitely overstating the role of UV rays and completely ignoring the damage the sun does to your skin. So, going back to the story of training your skin to the sun, it's the same thing, it's not supported by scientific evidence. Maybe your skin tolerates the sun better or you feel like you get fewer sunburns, but the damage at the cellular level is there. you're really don't want to wake up one day with your skin completely damaged and you'll feel like you look 15 years older than people your age and maybe you'll think, yeah maybe it wasn't a good idea to listen to a charlatan.
So if the quantum biology is over your head on first pass, it’s nonsense? jfc… so much for my optimism for your open mind. Quite the scientist you are… He’s far from the first to work and research in these frameworks. He connects all the dots from blue light to obesity and the Vitamin A stuff in his expansive amount of accessible content. But you already wrote it off after only 2 hours so it’s worthless to continue this conversation.
honestly yes i think i was open minded in the sense that i researched some of the concepts he talked about and that I learned a few new things from the articles. but linking obesity to blue rays and not diet and exercise it's a concept i couldn't agree with and i don't think it has anything to do with having a scientific background probably 99.99% of people would think the same. 🙂
The idea that we are the descendants of people who were in the sun 10-30 minutes per day just does not make any sense. Nor does it make sense that we spent most of our time outdoors for nearly all of human evolution and now - suddenly - minimizing sunlight is essential for our health. Today's science shows (probably quite elegantly) how we convert sunlight on the skin into vitamin D. We don't know what tomorrow's science will show, but I think it's pretty much a given that reducing something as fundamental as sunlight to a single beneficial compound (that we've identified in the lab) is absurd.
I didn't say that we are descendants of people who stayed in the sun for 10 to 30 minutes a day. Yes clearly our ancestors spent more time outdoors but science now concluded that it wasn't necessarily a good thing. I think our ancestors didn't worry much about getting melanomas at 60 years old, considering that not many of them lived to that age, and even worse they didn't care much about the premature aging caused by the sun. a lot of things are great and beneficial in moderation but can turn toxic when abused. You talk about the fact that the sun is fundamental for the human body, yes it surely has an effect on boosting mood and the production of vitamin D, but honestly I see no benefit in overexposure. Personally I feel much better when I have healthy skin.
If our ancestors spent hours in the sun, that means - by definition - that sunlight is basic to our physiology. We're descended from the folks who thrived outside. The ones who didn't thrive outside are not our ancestors. That we don't understand all the ways in which sunlight is basic to our physiology is a separate issue, but our current limited understanding certainly doesn't mean that our ancestral exposure to the sun is toxic ,and recent history is littered with examples of how "science has now concluded" is an early stage of what turns out to be terrible medical advice (DDT, smoking, lobotomies, innumerable pharma products, saturated fats... it's a long list). Obv you get to decide what healthy skin means for you, and how much sunlight you think you need. Go for it 😉 I'm not trying to convince you about what to do; just pushing back on your general statements on what's healthy.
I have a little problem with this theory that something is good just because our ancestors did it. They did what they had to do with what they knew back then and they had to be outdoors because they didnt have the choice.Think about it, there's tons of stuff they did we now know was crazy, like incestious mariages in ancient cultures to keep the bloodline pure, And let's be real, our ancestors weren't exactly living to 120 so I dont understand the idea of 'let's copy their lifestyle'. Totally agree that a 'nice skin' is 100% subjective. Some people might not care about wrinkles caused by the sun or sunspots. But there is an objective part about a 'healthy skin': too much sun exposure can lead to skin cancer, just like cigarettes and lung cancer.
Actually, I agree; it's not that something is automatically good because our ancestors did it; it's that our bodies are tuned to the biological expectations of our species. I have no doubt that there are changes we can make that will extend our health and lifespan. And I also agree that we shouldn't necessarily their lifestyle (or whatever we assume their lifestyle was). I would just argue that a good starting point is the environment that our physiology expects. We can then build (or take away) from there, but we should do so cautiously, and modern science has a nasty habit of reducing an entire spectrum of the environment (i.e. sunlight) to one or two measurable factors (vitamin D, for instance) and coming to ridiculous conclusions. In any case - are we doing better now? our brains have shrunk over the last few thousand years, and I'm not so sure about lifespan. Early agriculturalists seemed to have lived relatively short (and diseased) lives, but the hunter gatherers before them may have lived quite a lot longer, especially if you factor out the early vulnerable years (i.e. taking the average of lifespan from adolescence or adulthood rather than from infancy) and the dangers of their environment. I suspect that if we took our current humans - with our 80yo-ish life span - and put them in the wild, we would go extinct. That's it for me on this exchange. Best to you!
The blue light receptors are in the bottom of your eyeballs, outside your field of vision. They are also much slower to respond than the visual retina. Thats why people tend to not notice things overhead. Bluelight (scarcadian rhythm) therapy would only work if the lights are on the ceiling. If you want something useful, make an infrared sauna with a real wood stove, use it in the evening. Also, don't fucking use sunscreen, just stay out of direct sunlight when the sun is between the 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock positions (rule of thumb, lower latitudes may be more hours). All this gallium aluminum arsenide semiconductor light is questionable at best. Nobody has done the most obvious study: measure melatonin blood levels in reaction to different monochromatic light. Digikey has hundreds of different wavelwngtg near-IR LEDs available. The melatonin kit is under a thousand dollars and the microvile chromatic measurememt device is basically free on ebay.
The melanopsin in our skin is sensitive to blue light. Avoiding 10-2 is poor advice. Build a solar callous and stack all the melanin you can get. Tans are healthy. https://image.nostr.build/6e830ef7da4e303ee775e09ccaa5cc2539dd244322101ac936fb42c647c5894c.jpg
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LED LIGHT WAS FUNDED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND FORCE FED TO THE MARKET. LOOK IT UP.
I've been meaning to look into the sudden ban on incandescent bulbs. Because it's totally insane that a president writes an Exec Order and then - poof! - no more incandescent bulbs. I assumed it was because of some industry lobby for LEDs.
You can still buy i think. I have not used this website but I have seen it floating around a lot. https://www.1000bulbs.com/fil/categories/incandescent-light-bulbs
It started with the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 The timeline was supposed to phase out incandescents by Trump's term but he kicked the can. Biden picked it back up and basically did away with incandescents below a certain lumens per kw/H threshold. it's a classic case of government interference in the marketplace causing unintended consequences we now all have to live with. If you want a good video on the light waves given off by the different sources of light this is a really good one. https://youtu.be/nycAujdp708?si=B356p1Ws39ZqJBl7
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@MartyBent and the Daylight team had a great pod on this. We need technology that brings us outside into natural light more. “That light is not real.” https://youtu.be/0y4PIGXpzG4?si=YbYgUcM4bCGLFQ4a https://m.primal.net/HtOq.mov
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Can vouch for this. Ive lived in Alaska for 5 winters with only 5 hours/day of direct sunlight at solstace. There is no substitute for sunlight hitting the body
You can not fool the body. Period. Good Morning Jack🌞🌞🌞
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The sun is everything.
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Actually..., my mind yes of course can tell, but my body I am not sure if it can really tell the difference between real sun and uvb+uva sunbed. Speaking from experience. nostr:nevent1qqs940w7q3ka5du4fyxw0eu0zn034qk789ayxjulr4qqvrs2uacn2aqpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet5qgsgydql3q4ka27d9wnlrmus4tvkrnc8ftc4h8h5fgyln54gl0a7dgsrqsqqqqqpqwhyn4
No, it doesn’t.
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This! This is why I fly away to avoid the winter!!! Not gonna buy some bullshit light. Not gonna be caged by some corporation. nostr:nevent1qqs940w7q3ka5du4fyxw0eu0zn034qk789ayxjulr4qqvrs2uacn2aqpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsygyzxs0cs2mw40xjhfl3a7g24ktpeur54u2mnm6y5z0e6250h7lx5gpsgqqqqqqs6td8cp
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