Philosophically, you won that debate hands down. But for the people who only care about NGU or cashing in their BTC for CBDC tokens, I think they like that Bitcoin is safe, legal, and surveilled.

For this reason, I would be very happy if you make this happen 🙏🏻 https://i.nostr.build/6Xlq.jpg  

 Thank you @BTCapsule 🏴🧡!

Hey @ODELL feel free to reach out to Paul on Twitter or on Telegram to arrange a date & time to make this podcast happen. 👍🏻