Oddbean new post about login | logout Go see for yourself https://github.com/btclock Their org was taken down because “BTClock” is allegedly too similar to “BLOCKCLOCK” and they would think BTClock is a Coinkite product, even though their names are significantly different and they have different approaches (DIY vs closed source commercial) It is likely that Coinkite will sue if BTClock does not comply and take down everything, and sends a counter-claim to GitHub
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Bro, the BTClock looks exactly like the Blockclock from Coinkite, down to the the same form factor for display and similar black bezel with gold lettering. It literally looks like a Temu version of the CK one. Why couldn’t djuri reform/redesign the DIY to look definitively different from the original? More people might like the new design and buy them over the Blockclock. Open source is not an excuse for taking original ideas from someone else and producing it cheaper..I don’t know what the difference is between these two. What did djuri add that can be considered adding to the open source code of this project?
You did not do any research. The Blockclock does not have open source design or software and is a proprietary commercial product. The BTClock is an independent alternative that is meant to be able to be built DIY and is fully open source. The great part is anyone can customize this base design to do anything they want or add custom functionality. Using a trademark law in a baseless way does not help.
I’m not gonna argue the source viewable vs. FOSS here. I do agree that CK should just stop crying and go full FOSS and not commercial license. My question is what has djuri changed? The BTClock has verbiage on the back of the board saying “BTClock original design by Djuri B.” What is original about it?
It isn’t even source viewable
Ok, no Blockclock source viewable code. Great. So are you going to answer any questions I asked?
I did. They made an open source version of the same device that provides more control to users. If you are so pissed about this, then please stop buying phones because every phone is just a copy of an older design but with improvements.
That’s fine if Djuri wrote the code, mimic’d the Blockclock, and was making his code open source. It would be helpful if the end result didn’t look exactly like the original, I’d like to see something BETTER designed than the Blockclock. I’m not pissed about anything. I’m literally trying to decipher what the difference is between two projects that look very very identical. I already told you what I think about CK claiming source viewable vs FOSS. You interact like someone who has never had to ask a question before, humble yourself a little semisol
Yes, the code is fully independent from anything Coinkite has made.
Gotcha. Thanks for the info and that makes your OP about the situation make sense, thus much more alarming. Taking note on how this plays out and hope Djuri gets his project back up. Cheers
My wording was a bit harsh too and I understand. But overall, this is a pretty disappointing move from Coinkite. The full, unaltered text of the takedown notice is here: nostr:nevent1qqspdafxqmzasft60ft6zfxs3nsm6vf3ka0pae43dg66sq2evjay8ygpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumrpdejqzxrhwden5te0wfjkccte9ehx7umhdpjhyefwvdhk6qg4waehxw309a5xjum59ehx7um5wghxcctwvsk8nct3
this is bullshit, and absolutely open source is "taking original ideas from someone else and producing cheaper", its the best feature.
the problem is there is nothing open source or even source viewable about the blockclock BTClock is actually better because if you want you could turn it into a temperature sensor for example, or change the font, etc… with the Blockclock it is proprietary firmware you cannot modify
really bad adv for nostr:nprofile1qqsw3znfr6vdnxrujezjrhlkqqjlvpcqx79ys7gcph9mkjjsy7zsgygpr9mhxue69uhhqatjv9mxjerp9ehx7um5wghxcctwvsq3samnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwdehhxarjd93kztnrdaksz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ekk7um5wgh8qatz7tvu4p , after the "source viable drama" I see a pattern now. He's loosing respect and a client this time, and maybe many others are doing same thinking. This business move can be good with fiat sheeps, not with bitcoiners.
