Thanks. Just curious, for Bitcoin nodes, do you get the data from bitnodes.io or do you run you own process? 

 I use bitnodes 

 Do #Bitcoin nodes behind #tor count? 

 Yes 

 They're still addressable and reachable so why wouldn't it? 

 Low IQ pleb here... 

 Bullish. 

 enough said

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 Yikes! 

 This is a wonderful insight into the back-end of “crypto”

Big moment when you realise what decentralised actually looks like

Takes some time for people to get to that point though 

 Give us the Monero nodes... 

 Looks like up 92% to 3,750 though the only tracker admits that it's not trying to find all the nodes, so accuracy is unreliable. 

 Thank you. The data for Monero node count seems to be inconsistent between different trackers. 

 It's so weird that there are so few bitcoin nodes. Are we really this early? 

 Note: Reachable. 
Most nodes are likely private and on the tor network. 
As an example, look at lightning:

https://i.nostrimg.com/06bb97e64bbef94f8c7f3de321ad8d4f080f7f1e11d195ebf6fa28a33fd2f7d3/file.png 

 I thought reachable meant that theyre actually communicating with other nodes, not that they're clearnet. @Jameson Lopp can you clarify? 

 Bitnodes.io lines up with OP. The majority of nodes (~10k) are on tor, but the total is ~16k https://i.nostr.build/d27J.jpg  

 That's fair.
In that case, I too wonder what the meaning of reachable is here. 
Nodes that only accept connectivity via inbound requests, nodes that also initiate and establish TCP handshakes themselves or nodes that consistently remain online over a period of time.  

 Still a lot of people trusting and not verifying

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 I'm shocked at how low the number of btc noderunnners is... 

 especially when the technical barrier to entry has dropped so low  

 True. It doesn't take too much time to get a node up and running with #Umbrel or #Start9 

 hey man know of anyone having issues starting electr and cpu heating up over 90c degrees? 

 No, but you might wanna ask the @start9 community

https://community.start9.com/ 

 GD
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 Are you one of them? 

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 Like em or not. Ordinals did this 🚀 

 Signals. 

 i run 2 bitcoin nodes 

 I run 6 Bitcoin nodes. 😇 

 I run one intermittent Bitcoin node in the middle of nowhere with cellular service that can barely support text services. Took the better part of three months to sync. 

 Sounds like a job for Starlink! 

 It’s been considered. There’s some sadistic joy in the current method though. 

 It’s also horrendously expensive to set up 

 As did mine 🥲 

 You could also look into Blockstream Satellite if you want to nerd out. Just a one time setup cost of a couple hundred dollars IIRC. 

 I’ll take a look. 🤙🏻 

 Just my luck. Base stations sold out. 😂

I’ll keep an eye out. This might actually be a viable route for me. 

 I did but they have been sold out for a while now unfortunately. One day I’ll find a solution to shit internet 

 How much will our nodes matter in the “era of ETFs”? Bitcoin is changing forever in January, not for the better 

 If your project has a CEO it has one node. 

 Fired up my first Bitcoin full node this year and it felt goood!

https://image.nostr.build/3c9104ba99084c52ec40d2405ee38c5bd34b1a5d4322a9371148ba6bb3ce2343.jpg#m=image%2Fjpeg&dim=250x250&blurhash=U8SY%7Bq_3%7EqIUt7xu-%3BIU-%3BM%7BD%25t7%25MRjM%7B%25M&x=a8399421941a2f50923f2ef6b9d431338d5840b0771d4927db16757a23d6a58c 

 Gotta pump those numbers UP (I'm 2 of 16837)

 

 Should we thank Casey? 

 Are Tor only nodes considered reachable? 

 Yup, over tor of course.

It's kinda funny that tor nodes are MORE reachable than clearnet nodes because there are no NAT issues.