these anonymous debit cards are linda bs, dont you think? like if i buy one  then use it to pay any bill with ny name on it ..then its completely doxxing that i used monero or btc to buy it. i can,understand buying a giftcard and using it in store but a visa card ...seems terrible. also just perpetuates the fiat machine imo. 

 kinda bs* 

 you forgot an n at the end of your name Moro 

 lol, alright man. im trying to have a convo here

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 a gift card does not "perpetuate the fiat machine"?

if you put your name on any bill, they know your name, no matter if your pay with cash, card, xmr or flintstones.

do i need to explain that to you?
 

 you dont 'need' to explain anything to me.  i can barely see from up on your high horse up there sir...plenty of other people i can have a reasonable conversation with in the sea.  

 Hey sir, i tell you my name and you put it on your bill, am i still anonymous now?

Great conversation