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 The upcoming election in the US will solve 0 issues we currently have in the US, the debt will go up regardless of who's in office and the politicians will still choose to fund war over funding their own countries growth and prosperity. The letter next to their name changes very little about policies they will try to push forward. The sooner you realize this the better. The concept of political parties is a scam, they are on the same team. It's the ruling class vs everyone else. 
 Woods' Law

No matter who you vote for, you get John McCain.

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 Some of the problem is the candidates.  Some of the problem is the bureaucracy that is so big and uncontrollable that if you elected the most perfect candidates for every electable position, the bureaucracy would still make it nearly impossible to change most of the problems without removing >99% of the government agencies/employees. 
 The bureaucrats will make sure that nobody wanting to eliminate the bureaucrats can ever be elected or even get traction. 
 "It's the ruling class vs everyone else."

Such has been the ritualistic routine since the dawn of time. Let it run its course. Just do your best to protect those ya care for. Simple...🤷‍♂️  
 Culture precedes Law and Politics, gotta have a bottom-up cultural change of fiscal responsibility

Guide some horses to water and keep those that drink. 
 "Culture precedes Law and Politics, gotta have a bottom-up cultural change of fiscal responsibility"

I'm not sure you'll understand... or perhaps you won't wish to. Humanity does advance, but it does not change, in terms of nature. In simple terms: humanity has an expiration date. Chaos is the natural order. 
 I know, Humanity is just a blip on the timescale of the Universe. The whole "Green" push is stupid, the Earth will be fine long after Humans are gone.

Are you saying "Human Nature" doesn't change or that Humans are a part of the "Nature of the Physical World"? 
 Both. "Human Nature" and the "Nature of the Physical World" are nearly identical in substance. 
 If Human existence is Deterministic, then why bother pointing that out to people? 
 Good lord, mate! Because that's what the majority of nostr users whine and moan about. From what I've observed, they NEVER reach a point of comprehension... and the complaining just continues. Just give it a rest. Talk to each other, contemplate, and focus on ways to help each other take care of your loved ones. Let the cycle continue. If you've never witnessed war firsthand, you'll never understand my perspective. 
 This'll be my last bit

I understand the historical trends, but to say that a historical model will continue into the future because of Determinism is intellectually dishonest.

The mere fact that you're trying to convince people of this perspective is admitting there is such thing as "Free Will"

Enjoyed the back and forth. 
 Ya know, mate. It's okay to just admit that you didn't understand my perspective. 
 Not understanding and not agreeing are not the same thing. I agree if what you're talking about is the Fourth Turning Theory. I disagree if you're saying people are Automatons who have Deterministic Behaviors. 
 I'm aware they're not the same. 
 But humanity, as a whole, does have Deterministic Behaviors. 
 Yeah, Statistical Determination. 
 It's not just that! 
 Deterministic like, the "Fallen Nature of Man" that Christianity talks about? Something in that ballpark? 
 Still bringing up religion into the discussion. You won't agree or understand. 
 Not with that attitude lol First time I've brought up religion, plus you're the one who brought up Metaphysical valuations. 
 Humanity doesnt mean anything. Neither does religion, philosophies, economics. It's all meaningless. Even Earth's existence is. Life will continues long after we're gone. Why waste time on religion? 
 I'm cool with that, you have your worldview and I have mine. The Earth will continue to revolve around the sun, statistically speaking 😂 
 Religion is worthless. It's a waste of time. 
 To each their own, everyone has a religion. Some of us are willing to admit that. 
 No 
 Aight, we're Peachy. Eh, tons of information gets left out in purely text communication. I'm all for having friendly convos to get closer to understanding subjective/objective Truths. 
 Lol. This was all pointless. You're not a veteran, are you? 
 I'm not a Veteran 
 For nearly a decade I've been trying. No one ever gets it. 
 History repeats itself over and over, but through the use of different means. 
 It will continue. It already is. 
 The Donald didn't get involved in any new wars while he was in office.  Why do think that is?  Probably because he didn't profit off of all that surrounds it like the politicians that have made a career out of being one do.  While I agree whether you have an R or a D next to your name in DC it really doesn't matter.  They both put on a show to placate their side and then go and basically do the same thing.  But the Donald and biden are not the same and you are seeing that play out everyday the deep state tries to take him down.  From day one they have constantly try to impede everything he tried to accomplish.  There is a reason he has so many fake charges and court cases going on don't you think.  Its not like he was charged with any of these before he ran for office so that really tells you all you need to know.  No the Donald is not perfect but he sure as fuck isn't biden and anyone who tries to imply there is no difference has their head stuffed way up their ass so far they haven't seen the light of day since that thought came into their head.  Lets be real. 
 The State isn't going to save us from the issues they caused. 
 You believe I inferred that from my reply? 
 You believe I inferred that you inferred that from your reply? 
 guess so 
 Trump is still a dragqueen

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