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 Happy to help coordinate. This feels like a #nostrability topic. 

I had floated the idea with a few devs - maybe @jb55 and @miljan (dont remember) a few months back.

What I recall is that devs dont like meetings for meetings sake. Open ended / agenda less meetings may not be useful for most devs.

However, if we host a topical nest - for instance what is the @fiatjaf way to implement gossip, what works, what is still uncertain about it, and we record it this could be a bit more useful.

We could use asynchronous question form like ahead of the nest to gather the major questions from devs. 
 Yes this is true, a regular meeting for meeting sake would not survive, a topical meeting is not very useful periodically either.. I'm kinda oldskool, the only kind of meeting I think *could be useful here on a periodic basis would be patterned after a standup (an extended standup that does not have to be super fast like a reg daily standup would be and could expand into topics up to an hour or so).  Whats everyone working on, how does it match with what others are working on, any help needed in which areas and where and when to communicate further.

I did say useful, I'm also down to have a couple un-useful meetings here and there.. 
 Nobody likes the meetings for the meetings sake. Why don’t we expand the idea to not only protocol and client devs, but also to packages and tools that are being developed 
 Yes. A hashtag #devchat for anybody to post a question to at anytime might actually be useful. 
 > “Open ended / agenda less meetings may not be useful for most devs. However, if we host a topical nest … and we record it this could be a bit more useful.” @elsat 

I kinda disagree. Yea, we don’t wanna waste anybody’s time with an agenda-less formal meeting … but having a predetermined topic and a reserved “stage” just isn’t conducive for new devs or new ideas to surface and be known. 

Devs need a space (time and place) for discussion, but informality itself is an important variable to leverage.

For this case, an open ended “dev beer thirty” might also be valuable.  
 I don't know, Alby community calls seem to do well. People are always excited to show off what they've been working on. Think of it like a podcast — it's possible for quality to degrade because you have to meet your content quota, but that only really happens if the participants aren't interested in the project any more. 
 This is true - Alby community calls are useful if you’d like to hear what other devs are up to.

Such a call does not necessarily contradict with focused dev calls (for instance gossip dev call). 
 WOULD BE HAPPY TO HOST ON DISPATCH IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
 LFG, we already had the first one there so good fit 
 That could be a good place for it. I do want to have something more free form and informal, it would be less of a panel sort of format. A large audience might actually detract from the quality of conversation.