Like proof of work?

I like the open relay idea. 

 We have pretty good filtering scripts at this point, proof of work is a bit of a dead end. 

 Why doesn't hash cash work?  

 Because it doesn’t stop spammers. To set a difficulty high enough to stop them, no normal user could generate the PoW on their phone to get their notes out. 

 OK. Thanks.  

 Well in that case it is fine then, just use those scripts.


I like the ides of there being some open relays you can just post to, and if scripts exists for filtering then there is the solution. 

 Which scripts? 

 https://gitlab.com/soapbox-pub/strfry-policies 

 Looks like the old shapeshift logo 

 Trash collectors. Paid relays with rate limiting will become the norm.  

 We need a free-to-play tier.

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 Great idea! 

 I said it many times and I'll say it again: Please consider the friends-of-friends!

Have paid users. These are tier 1. Their follows are tier 2 etc. Put limits on each tier independently. For example:

tier 1: Just like all the other paid relays

tier 2: No more than 5 mentions per minute. No more than 20 events per hour or 100 per day. Events get deleted after a month.

tier 3: 5 mentions per hour. Event gets deleted after a day. No back-dating. No links. ... 

 Added you here: https://pyramid.fiatjaf.com/users 

 This is awesome, I’ve always been interested in the pyramid invite system like with lobste.rs 

https://lobste.rs/users 

 I had never seen this idea. It's pretty good. I'll make it. Not sure if this year or the next. 

 Interesting to see what sort of economy will emerge out of that. Of course relationships *between* relays exist too and spam concerns arise. The nostr hivemind might yet end up solving the age-old problem of putting a price tag on 'information'. 

 Kinda already have this with strfry-policies. We check if an npub was a paid user before applying rate limits. 

 We will do foaf this year! 

 Nevermind, we're doing foaf now and have 3 tiers
- paid members
- foaf
- untrusted

We have tighter rules for untrusted and paid member notes don't get purged. Might do a blog post on it later if anyone's interested
Thanks @LeoWandersleb for the extra encouragement here (and the whitelist set PR, which I used) 

 #SPAM 

 This is a big reason why I don't run a relay.

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 Like what? 

 Ну, уж если fiatjaf просит, то в новом году adre.su будет ограничен только русским языком, а PoW tor-версии будет значительно поднят. Появятся и плюсы. Потом скажу какие. Но пока мне всё равно лень этим заниматься, так что можно продолжать наслаждаться созданной AI детской порнографией, китайским трэш-видео и огромными постами о КПК и Си Дзинпине в скриншотах текста. Спасибо хоть не спамят больше и не дудосят.

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 This descended more quickly than I thought.

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