Oddbean

I agree woth you, as a former cookie cutter liberal pre-bitcoin. In fact, I typically agree with your takes 100% except for the use of the word progressive itself. Whether we like it or not, to be a progressive ( speaking from my experiencece in the US ) is really, really hard to unwind from State-Centric policy. I live in the PNW, all of my friends are very, very progressive. They simply do not see the disenfranchising of the state as a means to achieve ideals and goals they find important. This makes it almost impossible for them to see my means to achieve any goals ( as a bitcoiner) as anything but a threat and lunacy. So i just fail to see the connection with the word Progressive any longer, personally. Sometimes a feel like you are holding on too much to that word, friend. Again your take is 100% right and i dont want to distract from its value ...for me personally its liberalizing to untether myself from the Progressive ideal entirely ( albeit hard at times too as i am a bit 'adrift' now. Cheers mate keep posting 🤙

I hear you and feel that so strongly and go back and forth constantly with the word. I think my continued use of it stems from wanting those pre-bitcoiner progressives we know to not buy into the FUD from the left around bitcoin, so a bit of marketing in terms of @TPBPod etc. and I want so badly to evolve the word progressive to mean the fruition of these values in occupy and other via bitcoin, human rights, social justice, etc. I know a lot of folks agree with you, and we’ll see lol. But I still like using it and hope people can see my views as amplifying and evolving this state-centric view of progressive as we currently know it.

Have you read or come across Brian Gitt’s work? I just came across some on Friday, super enthused about how he described the transformation of his mind and mission from the last 2 decades https://briangitt.com/articles/