@ae1c89a6 I don't think he answered your question, but that response is full of such satisfying statements.

Make it boring.  De-hype it.  We need metrics.  We need it to be correct when it's important that it be correct, and we don't care how it gets there.

I am smiling. 

 @bdabbff7 I was impressed by all of the US government officials at #defcon 

This guy was impressively insightful, humble, and smaht

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MdNZC_CdHJA