I’m gonna be on stage at the conference sort of representing nostr users. I have my own thoughts, but as an average nostr user what’s important to you about nostr? What do you get out of being here? What keeps you coming back?
Saying GM to the plebs. Avoiding clown world. Owning my keys and network.
Everyone complains about big tech censorship. Nostr empowers you to do something about it rather than complaining on the platforms they own. - "Be the change you want to see in the world"
Ohhhh I get it Oma Dolly Nostrich Funny 😆
Dolly O’Switch 🤣🤣🤣
I am very lost.
That I don’t empower Musk and the advertisers. That I don’t experience the manipulation by the algorithms.
That I spend my time where I want to see more of in the future.
Knowing that I can’t be censored is a big one. Not contributing to the bottom line of big tech pocketbook No algorithm trying to influence us More organic content and conversations Nostr is revolutionary tech and want to be here to help it grow This keeps me coming back
Not being mind controlled by an algorithm mainly
Ditto. This is the big thing for me.
1 /♾️ It is an unprecedented and beautiful thing, that one can know nothing about being a Dev or creating a protocol and be able to observe and participate in the (R)evolution. There are no stupid questions- or if they are - no matter Onward! 🤙 ✨💜✨
First things that come to mind: - current quality of content is superior than other platforms. Pure signal. - no algorithms to shape the conversations. - decentralized > centralized - no friction to send sats P2P. 🤙
Not having to thought police your own mind.
Ummm i’m banned everywhere else
No rage bait -> calmer state of mind -> clearer thoughts
Firm ground upon which I can build.
Freedom to post as I please. No deletion of accounts. Able to stack sats and with-drawl funds whenever I choose. The community.
We don’t need no education. We don’t need no mind control.
I've got a vin diagram for you... https://stacker.news/items/619202/r/Nuttall
I see it 💯
I was responding to your "We don’t need no education. We don’t need no mind control." I didn't realize it was part of a thread... so this is why I love NOSTR because I'm already mismanaged and I can further amplify this mismanagement by using multiple protocol apps that do strange and exciting things.
It’s people being people, with no manipulative algorithms or third parties trying to control what we see or say. My feed is just the people I follow and since it’s chronological I mostly see whatever is currently being discussed, instead of being dragged back into issues/topics that some algorithm decides I should see. It feels like a network of humans existing in the moment sharing what’s important to each of us. Zaps are pretty f’ing cool too. 💜
* can reliably talk with someone & get a feeling of their character & make a connection because it's not an empty performance for an algorithm * owning identity & data * permissionless * censorship resistant * totally weird * also kinda normal * high energy * much less toxicity & clickbait * good for mental & social health * growing art scene * fun tech pushing the boundaries * good mornings
NOSTR = Unbannable YMMV
- Natively integrated permissionless payments / innovation for the creator economy - Interoperability - Social media that doesn’t punish you for stepping away for any amount of time - social media that’s “boring” more like real life - Vector for seamless, social bitcoin onboarding at the higher layers - Longer term excitement about Nostr’s “WeChat moment” - originally WeChat started out as What’sApp clone, grew by cloning IG, FB, and Yelp functionality - but now launches its own innovative feature that western apps are keen to copy. Right now Nostr is still largely in the Twitter / Meduim clone phase but there is clearly innovation happening to reimagine what can be, unburdened by what has been in social media. Nostr may not have the scale for these new concepts to fully catch on just yet be it will happen.
NO ADS
The incentives aren’t broken, and it makes the protocol actually usable. Users, developers, clients, all of us - we aren’t incentivized (by ads, engagement, revenue) to post or amplify the trash content that makes people angry and scared and divided on every social media platform. The incentives on nostr are zaps and bloom-vibes for posting quality content. It’s pretty simple. And all of this social content gives nostr the momentum to bootstrap the Other Stuff, so it’s the case that 1) the present experience is dramatically better than any alternative, and 2) the future is extremely bright, fascinating, wide-open, and full of potential.
What we love : Freedom for us Freedom for others Freedom of ideas Ownership over content What we need (not just for Nostr) : Better key management tools.
No algorithms, no ads. You can truly be yourself and get zapped for your content! Seeing new people join and learning about Bitcoin!
Rewarding to post with less risk of scammers. Message is sent clearly with no noise. Posts last and can be found by others. Feel heard
I don’t have to search for y’all’s new accounts anymore, specifically you and @rand0mguest2 Nostr’s use case is never getting banned anymore. https://image.nostr.build/61c6522035f7820608b824ad2c5cd812298ffe74a7ae64b6e302bce27c972867.jpg
This is a message I wrote to a friend that owns a social media agency, feel free to plagiarise as you wish: NOSTR stands for Notes and Other Stuff Transmitted on Relays and it is a social media protocol in the same way http is a web protocol. The protocol is open and anybody can build upon it. It has some fundamental concepts that are very different to existing social media platforms. Firstly it is decentralised, it runs across relays and anybody can run a relay. They can be open or closed, public or private, free or paid. Secondly, as a user, you don’t have an account, you have a private key, this is used to secure your data. These are the same type of keys used to secure Bitcoin. Your profile (account) is yours, you own and control it using your private keys and verified by others with your public key. Your posts are yours and you can store them on your own relay in your own home or business or you can rely on free public relays or more feature rich paid public relays. All your public data is signed by your private keys to verify it is you that owns it and all your private data is encrypted so nobody can read it. Messages (i.e. think NOSTR WhatsApp) are encrypted with your private keys so NOBODY can hack it or listen in, not even the NSA through a companies backdoor. You message other users privately by encrypting messages to them using their public key, which they decrypt using their private key. Relays talk to each other in the same way Bitcoin nodes relay information using the Byzantine generals solution so brilliantly solved by Satoshi Nakamoto for Bitcoin. Think of it a bit like BitTorrent. Data is normally sent on the clearnet, but can be relayed across the darknet (Tor) in highly censored regions. Because it is built using Bitcoin principles and technology, so it has Bitcoin money built in, meaning you actually send / receive money from / to any participant. As money is built in, the commercial options are different to centralised corporate owned platforms. It would be technically possible to build a platform that supports advertising, however that hasn’t really happened to date because influencers can be paid directly from their audience in many different ways. Ad hoc tips, subscriptions, pay to view or pay per time models. The great thing for content creators is that they control, own and keep all the money they make. There is no third party intermediary or merchant deciding whether they are allowed to be paid or not. NOSTR is censorship resistant, as there is no way to stop anybody publishing anything they want, in the same way nobody can stop or interfere with a Bitcoin payment. From an end users point of view, if they want to self censor, they can do this in multiple ways. You can mute users individually, or you can choose to use relays that adhere to your views or interests, so if you don’t want to see certain categories of content, you would avoid relays that carry those feeds. You can even run your own relay and curate content that you then charge other like minded users to connect to. You can of course connect to multiple relays for multiple different type of feed. While NOSTR is a protocol, platforms have to be built to use it, so the first platforms were twitter like clients and they are still very prevalent. However, NOSTR now has clients that emulate most social media platforms, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, Soundcloud, WhatsApp etc. They are even creating their own categories as well as emulating other functions such as Office Suite tools or e-commerce shops. If you want to give it a go, the easiest, but not the best, way to get started is download Primal on your phone from here: https://primal.net/downloads It will create a private key for you and setup a Bitcoin wallet. Once you have done this, if you want to follow me and message me, I will send you some Bitcoin so you can get started “zapping” micro payments to other users. My public key is: @mike Or you can visit me here: https://primal.net/p/npub1aqakd28d95muqlg6h6nwrvqq5925n354prayckr424k49vzjds4s0c237n If you want to see a small part of the ecosystem, then visit https://www.nostrapps.com/ where volunteers are listing some of the many apps that exist already. NOSTR is being backed by Jack Dorsey, Twitter founder, and you can see his account here: https://primal.net/p/npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m Or you can see his account like this: https://primal.net/jack Once you’ve setup Primal, you can use those same private keys to access any platform you wish and you can use a browser extension such as Alby to manage your keys: https://getalby.com/ Primal looks great, but there are other better functioning twitter like clients, probably the most reliable for iPhone is Damus: https://www.nostrapps.com/apps/damus which I would recommend using if you start to get serious. The content and user base is very Bitcoin and freedom focused right now, but more and more influencers are starting to use the various platforms and some are transyferring exclusively to it.
For me personally: -Nostr is credibly decentralized and permissionless, with users controlling their own identities, without too much trade-off. Actually usable, bootstrapping, and here. -Currently and in the future, users can choose their discovery algorithms, either by exercising choice over which client to use, or eventually toward a marketplace of algorithms available to a client that makes that happen. Nearly endless options for those that want it to happen. -Nostr's social graph makes my Lightning wallets genuinely better. It gives them venmo-like social discoverability. -The fact that it's a smaller community is currently an upside for me. I genuinely enjoy posting here. It gives me a place to vent about things or tell random mid-length stories that don't make sense to broadcast to 690k twitter followers or write a blog post about.
Love your random mid-length stories, Lyn 😁
Currently, it is more like exploring another country with a different culture but people I know and like to be with. It makes me feel like this might be a place I would like to live.
I come back because I am interested in the idea of NOSTR, not because it is a fantastic experience because it isn’t. Yet. (The least interesting thing with NOSTR is the ZAPPATONS, by the way. Moronic)
Zaps and no mind control
Because this is kinda the nostr vibe. Also, curiosity, curious to see what is being built. Seeing real time development of ideas. Seeing builders come up with ideas and making them. Less current thing stuff. Bitcoin focus. Not too much noise. Also, it is enough to say GM, rarely GFY. More humane interactions. It is also OK not to know shit. In X people would probably find some way to look down on you for not knowing something. Hmm yeah. Idk. Exciting to see where nostr is going even though it already is sufficient. No banning and no easy deletion, full sovereignty if desired. https://image.nostr.build/7c56f33a3ce5b78a692a7798398ca05ad0e80c86936167b0c14047136b03c66f.jpg
The most basic thing is healthier emotional balance and relationship with my phone and technology in general. Traditional social media makes you feel like shit and encourages self destructive emotions and habits. Nostr just leaves me feeling better and living a better life.
Dan day, hell threads, general silliness, typos (penis butter), and gfy 🫂. Build your own algorithm and people posting stuff frownded upon elsewhere.
That NOSTR removes censorship power from small groups of people.
I used to enjoy sharing news on social media. People started following me sharing news about Bitcoin on Google+. I wake up one morning and boom 💥 https://files.freespeech.casa/media/0f563fe2cfdf180cb104586b95873379a0c1fdcfbc301a80c8255f33d15f039d/6b6e4263175025d4b8b465fd5e8d6fbf1018ff21e77b7f709376bf11977283b3.webp Immediately blocked from connecting with the 130k people that had started following my posts. All because Google suddenly didn't like Bitcoin during the adpocalypse. If a nostr client or relay tries to shut you up then you just move to another or even better run your own to ensure no one can stop you from communicating.
You earn the most scarce money ever known to humanity by just shitposting😂.
I participate in Nostr because it is the place, the location, that we as Bitcoiners can build cultural capital free and unrestricted. Beyond that it's facilitating the circular economy via not only zaps but also the ability to market goods and services for Bitcoin to specifically Bitcoiners.
It’s decentralized. No algos, no filters
I'm waiting for more pandemic aware people to get here because the pandemic has really fucked up efforts to find others and organize
At the moment it is just or mainly a social app, but it will be much more. Has the same core philosophies of freedom as Bitcoin. And it being a protocol an decentralizes will allow for it to be much more than current social platforms can be. For example how Facebook was going to create their coin on the app. I feel like I am the user not the product. As a negative I would still highlight I don’t know how we are going to manage bot spam
I can say gay and retard
Thefact i can own my data and have the ability to say whatever i think, freedom. Just like the bitcoin content but obviously it can be any type of content. I also like the fact that its not addictive, i wont lose hours of my life scrolling. I get to consume content iwant to watch
I like the view
The freedom, and the vibes. The freedom vibes.
Ability to have pseudonymous and therefore multiple and/or disposable identities. This makes using nostr much safer than using deep state enmeshed platforms. And is generally safer to keep your real identity private from the entire planet. And when everyone decides to suddenly call themselves Dan it makes things less confusing.
Nostr accounts integrating as an oauth mechanism for games and other apps. (like @satoshisettlers) And our parents aren't using it yet, so it's still cool.
mainly @satoshisettlers
here for the hardcore libertarianisn and the visceral thrill of sometimes being zapped the equivalent of 2 cents
Same here brother
May I write you a long essay about this later tonite?
Will read if you do
worth a read to the bottom before you go on a panel :) https://bitkarrot.substack.com/p/why-nostr-wins
Immunity from corporate and state overlords to control narratives, speech, and destroy my privacy with KYC requirements.
that some technical illiterate dude like you can upload a 4.1 mb animated gif as a profile pic. pure awesomeness!
You can't ban me.
I feel free. There is nobody that can censor my speech or my monetary transactions. Nostr is a fresh breath in an otherwise orwellian world of social media. Also, as a developer, nostr makes it easy to help build tools to fight tyranny.
Ops can’t delete tweets and gaslight their Ls
You have to organize your own Nostr. Most underrated feature and the fact that you own everything for all time.
Nostr is incredibly revealing. People who claim they want transparency and free speech yet cling to closed centralized platforms, WE SEE YOU.
In fairness, after probably 8 hours of attempts to get set up with Nostr, I almost gave up. As much as we hate censorship, there's something to be said for the closed centralized platform you can *get to work* over the decentralized protocol you can't.
I really enjoy the vibe here, and I don't feel like I'm being manipulated by a corporate algorithm. But the main thing is that I want to be contributing to a system that I believe in. Decentralized networking FTW 💜
Being connected with some grounded and rational people. Corporate networks foster hysterical and irrational people.
#nostr feels like ye olde internet. https://image.nostr.build/968d4175683028359f8dc0392741d2d6307e0680d7dfd8db7db3d16437f21527.jpg
#nostr is pretty much a new internet. And using it is like using the internet when it was new.
Except that it doesn’t three days and tie up the phone line to download the latest internet exploder. #nostr rocks
Lol internet used to require low time preference
Mainly looking for my tribe, but also the level of independent commentary is really great 👍
To change the whole Internet experience for the better again. Start a google search zu find any AI Software... It got so bad. You end up finding a million subscriptions for shit Software. but the one amazing free Software ist hidden.
@Noshole keeps me coming back along with my fights with my frens about crocs, which are still horrible btw. I also like to sh*t disturb 😇
Bahahahaha yesssss queen
What will you gift us with today? A song? Comedy? Turd Soup? We never know!
Turd soup is broken and I just dropped my husband off for surgery. So you get nervous wreck Noshole today 😂😂😂
Speedy recovery to him!!!! Be nervous with us. We love you guys 🫂
for me that's many points.. from Nostr being FOSS up to that it is decentralised, censorship resistant, no Ads. nostr:naddr1qqyxxdecvdsn2ctrqywhwumn8ghj7mn0wd68yttsw43zuam9d3kx7unyv4ezumn9wspzpmx6gv5vpwujnj3gtfp8vt60lltr956cafyyrl9hgf9hzqf83urjqvzqqqr4guk44nnh
I think the best things I get out of using at this point relatively buggy, slow, user-hostile ecosystem like Nostr are: 1) Feeling of freedom. Not walking on eggshells and being afraid of shadow-bans or deplatforming. 2) Feeling I am on fertile ground which is already producing a lot of growth, not just platform owned by one team and dependent on right and wrong decisions of aforementioned team (like Facebook, X and other old school corporate social platforms). When I use Nostr, I feel like I'm following the wisdom of «skating to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been».
I have so much respect for the bigger influencers who dedicate time to nostr. For me some of the strong points of nostr is: 1. A feed that feels more organic and suprises you with fun stuff 2. Low amount of repetitive and engagement farming content 3. Real feedback and actual conversations
the smell of freedom
The relief of an overdue divorce from middlemen shaping my connection to other people, no matter how well intentioned. THIS is Buckminster Fuller's "new model".
THIS = the new model, not my stupid opinion
The best part of #Nostr is that unlike #Clubhouse and #X Spaces, I don't get "You Dumb B*tch" yelled every 5 seconds and people screaming incomplete sentences at each other constantly. I don't know how people are able to tolerate mainstream social media anymore. nostr:note1rae93035kkg7j94v52z3n2kmlxhuc62tugcwajtvhkjgvx427hpqzrf6f9 cc: @HODL you know what I mean ;)
Not feeling like a closed-source algorithm is attempting to influence my thoughts is definitely nice. I enjoy the ability to transition between clients while maintaining my follow and follower list, regardless of the type of user experience I prefer (e.g., Amethyst). The ability to send real money to anyone who has a lightning address, without knowing who they are, their location, or asking anyone for permission, is amazing. Nostr is amazing, and I can't wait to see what its future brings.
People I follow can't get banned I can't get banned No posts can be censored There is no algorithm that tries to outrage me so I stay longer on the app
permission less digital reach
Lack of algos, ownership, and a great BTC echo chamber.
Nostr brings out the best in people. I’ve noticed a considerable change in your tone and toxicity. Could be fatherhood, but it’s a trend I’ve noticed with most users here. Anytime I check Reddit or Twitter, I am reminded that doom scrolling is not helpful to society.
The vibe is just different feels like you can be yourself more. Doesn’t feel like a popularity contest
The near complete lack of algorithm forces you to add and remove people from your social sphere actively. Putting full responsibility of managing the info you consume in your own hands. If I see shit on nostr that I would prefer not to, well that is on me, gotta make better choices of which voices I listen to in future.
Any live broadcasting?
Answering my own question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzw9M3WsjUk&t=2587
If Hodl is gonna be representing nostr we're fucked
Contingency and redundancy of a % of my online Bitcoin connections if/when they tighten the vise-grip on Twitter and other social media sites… The knowledge/hive mind network of Bitcoin users online is a huge positive for the Bitcoin network… I want to stay tapped into and engaged with that
Those of us who code can build whatever they want. We do not beg to companies to add stuff we want and then wait for it to never happen. We just do it. Still the most mind blowing thing to build on an open protocol with some of the most brilliant people in the space.
These days it's still an extremely high signal environment. Many OGs, few idiots, few bots, much nicer than twitter. I'm curious how it will develop as well - things are moving quickly and the possibilities seem to be endless. Oh, and there's no evil algorithm.
The community. It's a pandora's box, but if you dig a little, there's so much open and welcoming plebs all helping each other. The tech. It's the first of its kind in this age. Permisionless, uncensorable social media. Zaps. Cmon, how cool is that.
I enjoy the users. Nostr reminds me of the early days of Bitcoin. People building freedom things without permission. Also I got very tired of other social medias and covid censorship/election censorship was the final straw. Remaining addiction is twitter and I hope Nostr is a healthier version of that. The tools around nostr keys need to improve because the insecure apps and attacks are coming when this gets bigger. The potential of Nostr is huge and way beyond the scope of social media which is exciting. Enjoy the conference. Be sure to wear a suit if you want to fit in!
developers developers developers <chant>
the reason I'm coming back is because I know I can never be banned and because I want to see this ecosystem grow
the lunatics run the asylum ... built by people who are making a difference used by by people who are making a difference shared by people who want to make a difference ps; swing for the fence GM 🙃
I'm only here for the Zaps and the ownership of your identity - no email, no password. That's pretty much it. Nothing groundbreaking when it comes to Privacy with Nostr, really. I mean, still gotta use Tor or some VPN. Similar to 'mega instances' in the Fediverse, 3-4 Mega Relays control the network - at least that's how it stands at the moment. >Relays have all your data in raw text. They know your IP, your name, your location (guessed from IP), your pub key, all your contacts, and other relays, and can read every action you do (post, like, boost, quote, report, etc) with the exception of Private Zaps and Private DMs Source: https://github.com/TonyGiorgio/onyx?tab=readme-ov-file#privacy-on-relays--nostr https://image.nostr.build/4043b1214e16632e46d05d1eaca4727bd6ec275a09c6e55cd1bc4b5695448a3c.png
For me it’s mostly for staying up to date on the development of nostr and all the freedom tech. It’s moving so fast and it gives me hope for the future! 🌅
whenever someone complains about Twitter on Twitter I come here, "waah they removed the Bitcoin hashtag, waah"