Oddbean

Here's my harsh take - "Free Ross" is emotion based psychological manipulation preformed by state actors to trigger action through an empathetic response. I'd love to see Ross free, but ultimately that outcome is inconsequential to the bigger fight and it wouldn't even address the structure which imprisoned him in the first place. Think about how many lives will be destroyed through war, money printing, deficit spending, harmful policies, etc. Just because someone is a Bitcoin hero doesn't mean the chance of their freedom overrides all of those realities. Trump is better than Kamala but not by much and neither are my leaders. Vote for the lesser of two evils if you want evil, act for good if you want change. Bitcoiners understand this better than most, I don't get the simping.

No, classic Amythest moment. I have a hard time following which thread I'm in sometimes. To vote or not to vote is a very contentious issue in Bitcoin circles. We are all very opinionated. Do you have any good Bitcoin audible episodes on the issue?

hmm that could be a good episode actually... but as far as bitcoin related issues this is one of the episodes where i covered my view of what has been happening recently. it was just after Bitcoin2024. https://fountain.fm/episode/YMTjy7o1rHszBoGEk5ie

"Think about how many lives will be destroyed through war, money printing, deficit spending, harmful policies, etc. Just because someone is a Bitcoin hero doesn't mean the chance of their freedom overrides all of those realities." I dont believe any of his nonsense about bitcoin, he clearly has no idea what he's talking about. Again, all of this is irrelevant. Hwo will any of this be any different. If anyone thinks there vote will make a difference here, they have deluded themselves. Which is again, why the explicit context of my post is that none of that matters, because there is no way at all to change any of that. Its like saying we can "manage the cancer" instead of remove it. It's just gonna keep growing. ie. not relevant, and voting on any other issue is pointless.

And you shouldn't care about me or my thoughts. Funny how easily and clearly others posted their logic against your misguided position. I still respect your opinion and appreciate you. Best of luck. XOXO

Well i answered them and gave my reasoning for why no other issue matters. If you had something to add I could explain, and its funny how so dominated by the political frame everyone is that they think this means I'm voting (for Trump presumably), which I've also never said. The comment was explicitly: "literally nothing about voting matters or will make a tangible difference except possibly this single issue." then people come in acting like they are teaching me something and bring up100 irrelevant things they either heard in political ads or read in a Rothbard piece that they only first found this year.

You're not speaking to me in this particular comment, but I figured I'd chime in anyways. There are definitely plenty of reasons to vote for him. Freeing Ross is a good idea, but ultimately it doesn't impact us as individuals, whereas the other policies that Trump is promoting very heavily can impact us. It really does just come down to, do you want more of the last four years of absolute clownery or do you want us to at least try to return to the state of the economy military border and governmental values that we had starting in 2016? The choice is pretty clear. We can't survive another four years of what we just went through. On top of that, Kamalo will be 10 times worse as an individual, considering the fact that she's a hardcore communist. If you choose not to vote for Trump, then you're effectively giving more room to Kamala. I know that the lesser of two evils mentality absolutely sucks, but it's the truth, unfortunately. Kamala stands very contrary to the values of Bitcoin and of freedom. That alone should be enough reason to not vote for her and to vote for Trump instead. Again, at the end of the day, freeing Ross is a great idea, but it's not the issue that should make or break a candidate for anybody.