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 You can get eCash by sending sats on Lightning. Gotta have Lightning enabled wallet first. 
 Satoshi which I have in the system transfer fine, the problem I have is to find a simple and kyc independent way to add bitcoin to the system . Any suggestions 
 Is the question how to get non-kyc satoshi? PoW. Write something; get some zaps. Get a paid-in-bitcoin job. Sell something for sats. 
 Phoenix and Muun are half-decent ways to go from on-chain to Lightning if that’s what you’re after… could also run your own node 👏 
 Thanks, running a node is a bit too much. Do you mean running the node and earning Satoshi for offering channels? 
people are happy to pay for what I do but don’t use bitcoin,  changing fiat to bitcoin quite easy with Kyc less so with p2p but still to do it you usually use some sort of id.  I am afraid I am getting paranoid, probably too much time spent in the bitcoin/Nostr bubble.