@4ebb1885 
I'd encourage you to not take offence at technology choice. You're too smart for that.

We all invest time in things we think are useful, and they are always more or less useful than we perceive, because usefulness is a longer-term thing.

Let it gloss over you, or don't, but please do not become entrenched. It's not about you, or any individual. You do so much of worth, including around LLM education, regardless of their value. 

 @2561ebcb I'm not offended if people chose not to use them - that's a very reasonable ethical choice, which I've compared to being q vegan in the past

What offends me is when people deny that there is any utility to them at all - indicating that anyone who is finding value in them is deceiving themselves

(And I'm aware I've been arguing that point with crypto advocates for years, so  it's somewhat ironic I'm now on the other side of it) 

 @4ebb1885

I find it interesting that there is something a person could say, by implying you have been duped, that could offend you. Does it cause in you a subjective feeling of offense, of being offended? Or are you saying it is *objectively* offensive to say or imply that a group of people have been scammed? (As you know, I use Whisper so I do know ML tools are useful, btw.)

 @2561ebcb 

 @cb86276c @2561ebcb It's a pretty mild effect, I'm not particularly offended - I just wanted to point out that if someone says "LLMs are useless" there's an implication they may not have considered which is "anyone who thinks they are useful is deluding themselves"