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 Thanks, I looked up an article on paynym from @TheBitcoinManual I haven’t found the headspace yet for Monero or ecash, are you finding them easy to use? Which would seem to be a basic prerequisite for mass adoption. 
 ecash is @calle 👁️⚡👁️ cashu implementation it can be used here on nostr but it's custodial and on early stages yet, monero is the solution for MoE that don't rely on custodians.