Oddbean new post about login | logout Yes, relay operators can be coerced.
Thanks for the reply, Fiatjaf. I’m somewhat new in this space so I’m trying to figure out some of the mechanics. Indulge me - if you will - few more curiosities: If users flock to popular relays to achieve maximal reach, and operators can be coerced, then doesn’t that obfuscate decentralization? I’m finding that relay discovery is a barrier of entry to Nostr from a user perspective (not a dev, if that wasn’t already obvious). Do you have any suggestions for us plebs who want to filter relays by area of interest?
Users don't need to flock to popular relays to achieve maximal reach, they just need their followers to follow them on whatever relays they publish to. This is how it's supposed to work: https://how-nostr-works.pages.dev/#/outbox
How do I make my followers use the same relays I publish to
is there a guide for this
Yes, it's in the link above, click on the button that says "guide".
I got hit with the old “GFY mobile user” text “browsing on the phone is absurd and this website must be viewed on a desktop. thank you.”
You must buy a computer.
Switch to desktop view on your browser
didn’t work ): unless I clicked on wrong thing https://i.nostr.build/gQbpKNdIBcRBhVD4.png
It is a window size thing. I get that if I shrink the desktop browser.
no, that's exactly what the outbox model is, and the clients your followers use need to use it; that's why we insist on its importance so much; it (or something like it) is the only way nostr can become decentralized
thanks Pablo 🤝 @elsat feature request fren
https://github.com/nostrability/nostrability/issues/69
issue #69 ? yeah, this one’s gonna do numbers
Nostr needs from you outbox #nostrability memes sleepy. Objective is (to motivate and/or shame devs ) to implement outbox
Who’s the creator of outbox ? making a meme rn
Nvm I just remembered it was my boy @Mike Dilger
I find crowbars work nicely. Slap it against the palm of your hand a few times. They will get the point. More seriously now, I recently rewrote my webpage on this: https://mikedilger.com/gossip-model/
I appreciate the visualization. (FYI - At first I got the same "view on desktop" note as @sersleepy (on a laptop). Zooming out fixed this.) Thanks for this. I've found Nostrudle works nicely for discovering user inbox/outbox relays. Haven't been able to see other user's relay info on the mobile clients (Damus, Primal), which is where sharing them to your followers would come into play. I guess growing one's reach is better done using traditional/centralized channels for communication for now. However, I can see how the outbox model can give you more control over the content you are seeing, if you only connect to paid relays, for instance, you will the proof of work takes care of spam users.
We don't have many relays with filtered content yet, today all relays are all more or less the same mess, but if you are into cats here is something for you: nostr:nevent1qqstdeudu2kfw55eueeyzmcq9tng76wpr32s7xtxhvwk84udwrgztaqpzpmhxue69uhkztnwdaejumr0dshsz8thwden5te0vfhhxarj9e3xjarrda5kuarcda4k7tnrdakj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcm0sz6j You can use https://nostrrr.com/relay/catstrr.swarmstr.com to browse.
There certainly is beauty in the mess. This all positive to me! And Catstrr should age well: cats-only relay the first of its kind to filter by content Geniuses at work. nostr:note1qqqd666ml4cgqjnykk9fytrsmkaju9k0ckw64d3cykk4emt8d2psgqdzxv
