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 Patreon platform is horrible, bad UX, messy, etc...

Who's building pay walled creator community alternatives on Nostr? 
 Need this 
 Need a Bitcoin version of Patreon for sure. Subscribe by Satoshi 
 Very interested in knowing and trying out stuff :) 
 I would use it. Chatter about a substack competitor lately. Would use that too

Who can build please? 🙏🏻 
 Creatr.nostr.wine

Talk to nostr:nprofile1qqsrmpp2lmx4u2fl9zmxy7fnwp9rlwxwz5a2j8tep2c376n494z2gtgpzamhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpzamhxue69uhkxetvd3shytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsz4sum5 about it.  
 nostr:nprofile1qqsvdac80utfn4gvly4fv54la0l6cp0udpptnm3ezzyajkdc44w53lgpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuvrcvd5xzapwvdhk6qgdwaehxw309aukzcn49ekk2qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8x6tpd4ehgu3wvdhk68na3xp 
 Doesn’t nostr.wine already have this? 
 I think Highlighter also has something like this 
 creatr.nostr.wine   
 This looks like it! but I am not able to become creator. There should be some Google docs form to fill out, but the Google docs say permission denied.  
 Maybe its still in beta on the creator side... nostr:nprofile1qqsrmpp2lmx4u2fl9zmxy7fnwp9rlwxwz5a2j8tep2c376n494z2gtgpzamhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpzamhxue69uhkxetvd3shytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuegpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejsz4sum5 should be able to clarify that better than me 😅 
 Thanks! Sorry about that @Karel - I broke the form a while back and got distracted with other things. I’ll DM you. 
 Patreon is 2/10 
 Its in my list, but you just can see the updated version in Amethyst:

### Donation and payments
- [Zapper](https://zap.nostraps.org) - Easy Zaps [[source]](https://github.com/nostrband/zapper) 🌐
- [Autozap](https://zapplepay.com/autozap) [[source]](https://github.com/benthecarman/zapple-pay-backend) 🌐
- [Nostr Zap](https://github.com/SamSamskies/nostr-zap) 💻(numpy)
- [Creatr](https://creatr.nostr.wine) - Creators subscription 🌐
- [Geyzer](https://geyzer.fund) - Crowdfunding [[info]](https://geyser.fund/about) [[source]](https://github.com/geyserfund/geyser-app) 🌐
- [Heya!](https://heya.fund/) - Crowdfunding [[source]](https://github.com/verbiricha/goalz) 
 Full list:

nostr:nevent1qqsgx5snqdl2ujxhug5qkmmgkqn5ej6vhwpu4usfz03gt4n24qcfcwspz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzvuhsyg99aez8269zxu3zd4j8qya92fg7437ax745pqz22ys6v08zef65qypsgqqqqqqsxwxa6q 
 Patreon also froze payments. When the Ukraine war broke out, someone raised money that had something to do with it via Patreon. 

Patreon refused to pay out the funds raised to whom they were raised for… 

Don’t @ me, I don’t want to argue about wars with anyone. 

I think we can all agree that when someone raises money for whatever cause they believe in, those recipients they raised it for should get it without any other entities stepping in the prevent it from being done. 
 third party centralization is just sooo 20th century.

I can understand governments wanting to control where their fiat currencies are going, but it's the donors that need to be held accountable for where they choose to send their money.  Third parties just add layers of complexity that are no longer needed. 
 It’s similar to go fund me. Like, “we want you to be able to raise money…no, not that way!” 
 "We want to help raise money, just not for THOSE PEOPLE OVER THERE." 
 Exactly 
 and I mean, I don't want to send money to either Israel or Hamas, but to that mother whose home was just bombed and she only has one surviving child.  No third party or government should be stopping us, they should be helping us identify and support the people who F*ING NEED THE DAMN HELP!!! 
 Exactly. Donating is personal and it’s intrusive for someone to step in and say “no you can’t do that just because we have more power than you.” Its gross. 
 @heatherlarson 😀 
 Don’t tell me not to @ you. 😂 
 Don’t tell me what to do 😂 
 This a feature of the MyLibrarian community on Nostr, which we are building.....stay tuned 
 Need the Substack replacement.  Micropayments via sats opens up all kinds of possibilities for bundling, paying by the article, etc… 
 Identity confirmation via proof of ID, backed by a community rating system that can quickly and easily identify scams and fake IDs.   I get PM on Nostr all the time from new profiles using well known names, and I just laugh at them.

I have some people in places like Kakuma that I would support a lot more if they could get the bandwidth to post. 
 i would…if i could 🥲
it’s much needed. 
 I'll do it if no one will 
 Do it 
 It legit survives off the relentless shilling from Youtubers 
 Would zPay.live count? 
 There is  @Creatr 
 I’m currently building @indeehub for filmmaking. Not on NOSTR due to technical reasons. If anyone can help suggest a way to port it or implement it here I’d love to talk. 
 Isn't creatr paywalled? 
 I asked something similar. Isn’t @iefan 🕊️ 
 Just a simple #Nostr version of OnlyFans

I think creatr.nostr.wine does that

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 I see so many people in my industry investing time, money and lots of effort into building a revenue stream on patreon. I know they don't have good alternatives. I know that many of us lack sufficient technical expertise to piece together a solution even if we knew about some kind of potential open source alternatives. 

But none of that assuages my concerns about the tendency of these walled garden platforms to rug-pull disfavored causes, industries or people. Something built on #nostr presents the best hope for reducing or eliminating this vulnerability.


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 I'm a noob, and probably saying something really ignorant and retarded, but .. Is there a way to bring nostr:nprofile1qqs2xugc5jyguqkj36rk0syv4tmnkjdtmtperttl7x9rqjy3ustdcvcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qg6waehxw309aek2mnyd96zumn0wdnxcctjv5hxxmmd9uxa0uz8 nostr:nprofile1qqsdxm5qs0a8kdk6aejxew9nlx074g7cnedrjeggws0sq03p4s9khmqpzemhxue69uhksctkv4hzucmpd3mxztnyv4mz7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5hszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7msmsjt and nostr:nprofile1qqsq36k72r04rkj2gt6acpz7xkehrypwqmt2spfpt0kr6ukudp7vkpqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5hsz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme0v2l6t9 together? Maybe you're sent an invoice at beginning of each month for subscription? 
 Yes subscriptions are on the roadmap  
 That's awesome. Could you point me in the right direction to learn about payment options on npub.pro ? I'm trying to sell physical goods with shipping. I need shipping address, what they ordered, and, of course, payment.  
 Definitely interested in this conversation 
 paywalles content, selling tokens. all that stuff should be done on nostr.  
 I hated my experience with Patreon. They cut your access immediately after cancellation, even if you just paid for a month. Locals is also a garbage nightmare 
 Why do content creators think that everybody has an unlimited budget for ever more monthly subscriptions? If I were talented, I’d be expanding into the nostr space like my livelihood depended on it. 
 Why is locals garbage ? 
 Create 3 years of content to let people be "patrons" for one month and download everything  
 Part of the "problem" is that Information wants to be free. Paywall is not the best form of monetizing. 
 it seems to work well enough such that a lot of creators use it

maybe we should make it better instead  of ditching it 
 @Highlighter seems to be 
 This would be pretty cool for Nostr 
 @Doctor Puzzles 🧩 what were you telling me about the other day? 
 🤐 not red