Oddbean new post about login | logout Tanel, don't be dense. Certain accounts are artificially boosted in the algorithmic score.
playing devil's advocate (as i often do) i agree with your statement, was just trying to find why it wouldn't be true the trending tab in it's form creates a fixed thought leaders space and a circlejerk around the same takes without variance
It is what it is. Influencoors being influencoors. You invest enough and you get preferential treatment. Instead of intellectual honesty about it all, they'll simply reply "Don't like it, go build your own" if confronted about it.
yeah, severely dislike it how would you like to see a trending tab get done? because the interactions per post of the influencers are gonna be inflated regardless
If they naturally get engagement and interaction, so be it. Trending feeds create a feedback loop of engagement. If certain accounts are artificially boosted into it on a consistent basis, then they are consistently getting more engagement and exposure than other accounts, not based on merits of their content but based on preferential treatment. That needs to go away. Ideally, trending feeds would be powered by data vending machines that allow the user to see criteria important to them and then receive a feed of top posts based on that.
I suppose the justification for it would be that these people have large followings on other platforms and have the greatest possibility of bringing people over. They promote primal on other platforms, those same followers come over, and see names they are familiar with in the trending feed. Maybe primal becomes the gateway drug to btc and other clients? Or maybe, those same people just stick with primal because it’s comfortable.
"Come use nostr, we're building a new system where anyone's voice can be heard as long as you already have proof of a large following elsewhere."
Whatever. Follow lists, trending lists, recommended follow lists…….whatever. Have at it. I’ll stay in my corner.
do you think the bias is towards just influencers or influencers who are also using primal as their most used client?
I think there’s a group of “recommended follows” who are on the list because they use it and promote it. I also think there are those who get “boosted” into the trending list because they have large followings in the space of btc and social media.
hmm, rather odd i never really use primal, so i'm foreign to a lot of this but it's some great insight 💜
I don’t either. It’s not really that odd. People gain followers from being on a list, they then promote the platform/client. It’s a mutual agreed upon arrangement where both parties gain. Free market. It is what is and people won’t care or don’t seem to care. Which is fine, but we can still point it out.
yeah, but why not be open about it? nostriches appreciate transparency a ton, and i think there should be an opt-in/opt-out solution for that
Because we can just use another client and they can do whatever they want. They aren’t going after us, they are going after the mainstream users who will just use their default settings and feeds.
Because there is profit to be made, and these large accounts are more interested in securing their positions of influence on nostr now while it's early than they are with giving other voices a spotlight because it will mean bigger profit for them later on.
ugh makes sense
On the one hand I think how it makes sense from a purely business standpoint. On the other hand I think how it is hypocritical to some of the ideals preached.
Ten points for ever thought leader with a @primal address.
hmm, interesting
My “points” are a shitcoin fyi